The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
connorjack, Hookly, fslobodzian, ArchibaldHeidenr, Fernholz
6,169 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
1 members (1 invisible), 397 guests, and 110 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
St. Sharbel Maronite Mission El Paso
by orthodoxsinner2, September 30
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
Holy Saturday from Kirkland Lake
by Veronica.H, April 24
Byzantine Catholic Outreach of Iowa
Exterior of Holy Angels Byzantine Catholic Parish
Church of St Cyril of Turau & All Patron Saints of Belarus
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics35,516
Posts417,599
Members6,169
Most Online4,112
Mar 25th, 2025
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 3 1 2 3
#101333 01/17/02 08:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 118
F
Member
Member
F Offline
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 118
Quote
Originally posted by Benjamin Andersen:
FG wrote:

Is it true that the Western Orthodox are attempting to re-establish a Benedictine or Western-rite monastery on Mount Athos, and specifically on the ancient site of the Amalfion?

Not that I know of - I don't think that the pious monks of the Holy Mountain would allow it, given their general view of anything Western!

Benjamin Andersen

I see your point. But I will be more optimistic.

The holy fathers are under the jurisdiction of the Ecumenical Patriarch and His Holiness does not share their animus for "all things Western."

I am sure that with the cooperative efforts of both the EP and Antioch such a miracle can be "arranged."

FG

#101334 01/17/02 08:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,658
Member
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,658
As you've said before, this differences are common in most of the christian rites and it's hard to say what's the correct form that should be used because all the rites are a patrimony of the early christian church.
For example, the Coptic-ethiopian rite has two epiclesis and the Catholic church didn't see anything incorrect in the liturgical texts used by the Eritrean Church ("uniate") and some of them came directly from the Apostles.
It's sad that the western cannon has been supressed, because the true latin mass has beauteful prayers.

#101335 01/18/02 10:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Member
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Dear Free Greek,

I share your optimism for the revitalization of Amalfion on Mt. Athos!

There was also an Armenian monastery there and the ruins can likewise be viewed.

St Benedict is highly venerated in Greece and Constantinople.

I once shared an English translation of the Greek liturgical services to St Benedict with a Benedictine Nun. Her community has now adapted the Canon to their services!

Aghios Benedictos was imbued with the spirit of the Eastern Fathers and it was he who was among the first to coin the title, "Orthodox Catholic" in his Rule.

Alex

#101336 01/18/02 10:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Member
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Dear Benjamin,

Thank you for that information and if you would be so kind as to share, even privately, the prices and address, I would be in your debt even more!

I've attended Western Rite Orthodox conferences and greatly admire you.

What I admire most is your great education in all things both Orthodox and Western.

(I just adore Fr. Schneirla and his feistiness!)

I remember how welcoming the Western Rite Orthodox were.

Present at one meeting were several Roman Catholics about to join Western Rite Orthodoxy, a number of Anglicans upset by the consecration of a woman bishop in their area, several Old Catholics and Old Roman Catholics, three Lutherans, a number of Methodists and one Eastern Orthodox Priest who was "defecting" to the West . . .

This is also where I first heard about St Mark's, your parish, and about how much it served as a beacon for Western Rite Orthodoxy.

Do you know Fr. Stephen Walinski? A great man, deeply pious and we had a memorable luncheon talk together when we finally met at the conference in Toronto after years of correspondence.

Alex

#101337 01/18/02 01:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9
B
Junior Member
Junior Member
B Offline
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9
Dear Alex,

Thank you for your kind words about our little Western Rite community. Being right in the thick of it does not allow one to step back and see the good points very often. I appreciate your encouraging words.

Fr. Schneirla is a wonderful man, full of feistiness and a wealth of knowledge. He regards Catholic - Orthodox dialogue as of the utmost importance.

Which WR Conferences were you at? The last was held in Oklahoma City, and the next (I understand) will be held in Florida.

I do indeed know Fr. Walinski, who is as you say a very pious and enthusiastic man. I believe that his parish in Omaha is doing quite well.

Benjamin Andersen

#101338 01/18/02 01:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Member
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,405
Likes: 38
Dear Benjamin,

I attended the Antiochian conference held in Toronto a few years back. I took the day off work and when I told my employer what it was, he clearly didn't understand, but thought it sounded very important so he let me have the day off paid!

And please don't forget the prices and the address where I could purchase the icons!!

You know me and icons!

Alex

Page 3 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Irish Melkite 

Link Copied to Clipboard
The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2024 (Forum 1998-2024). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0