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John and Joe, Here is the webpage that I mentioned. It is a webpage for a "survey in canon law" course: http://www.pcj.edu/jkasny/Cl711/Su19Church.htm While we're mentioning churches sui iuris, it's interesting to note that the PCJ is the one seminary in the United States that answers directly to Rome, no?
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Purely political in reason. In order to have autonomy out of the hands of the Irish bishops back then, the Germans asked to have their seminary "elevated" out of the hands of the regional bishops (Irishmen) by becoming "Pontifical."
My former English Lit. instructor, the late Msgr. Fick (spelled with an "i" as he would say on the first day of class) sidelines this all-too human reason for immunity from the Americanist Irish in his book on the Joss.
Yes, they answer directly to Rome. We even flew the Papal flag. The Baptists next door (with their red-white-and-blue painted church bldg.) didn't like that too much. Chuckle.
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Okay--so does that make the Macedonian Church the newest sui iuris Church? Hi everyone. No, I haven't lost my marbles. I realize that this question was asked more than eleven years ago. But, as it's a good question, I'd like to chime in something which may be helpful. Namely, that Fr. Roberson's The Eastern Catholic Churches 2008 [ cnewa.org] has this note * The Annuario Pontificio now lists the Apostolic Exarchate of Macedonia separately from the other two jurisdictions, which are included under “Byzantines of the Eparchy of Križevci.” (Subsequent versions contain the same or a similar note. For eastcatholic-stat12, it reads: "* The 2012 Annuario Pontificio lists the Apostolic Exarchate in Macedonia separately from the other two jurisdictions, which are listed as “The Byzantine Church of Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro.” ") This may mean that Macedonia does, in fact, have its own particular church. (Wikipedia lists the Macedonian Catholic Church and the Byzantine Church of Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro as 2 different sui iuris churches -- not that you can go by Wikipedia.)
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P.S. Expanding a little on the question asked by MMD, if the Macedonian Church is, in fact, a sui iuris Church, then did it just become one in recent years?
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Peter, I think you get the prize awarded annually for fishing deepest in the depths of the forum archives - but you lost out on the prize for asking a previously unasked question. Eastern Catholic Stats - 2008 APA footnote in Father Roberson's table reports that the AP is now listing the Apostolic Exarchate for the Macedonians separately from the Eparchy of Kriveci and the Exarchate for the Serbians and Montenegrons, which are together denoted as "Byzantine Catholics of the Eparchy of Kriveci". We may be witnessing the birthing of a Byzantine Macedonian Catholic Church sui iuris - the first new such church in almost a century. In fact, despite Wikipedia's stance to the contrary, the question remains unanswered, at least officially (there has been no proclamation on the matter of which I'm aware). Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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