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This may sound very dumb to most of you, but I am ignorant in many things. Is the Byzantine Church, the one which runs this Forum, a Uniate Church (in union with Rome)? How can one tell which Churches are Uniate and which are not?
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Be careful, many would find the term "uniate" to be offensive. It is a word with rather negative connotations.
To answer your question, this forum was started and is run by persons who are in the Byzantine Catholic church I believe.
I will let the forum administrators answer your question though. Peace in Christ,
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I was totally unaware that the term "Uniate" was a perjorative term! I had always seen it in books on theology, and never thought more about it. I'm sorry if I have unintentionally offended anyone.
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Hi Andrew! Welcome to The Byzantine Forum. We are honored by your presence. The easiest way to tell if a Byzantine Church is in communion with Rome is to listen to the bishop they pray for during the Divine Liturgy. Most Eastern Catholics commemorate Pope Benedict XVI (so one can tell instantly!). Some Churches commemorate only their local bishop so one would need to know who their bishop is in communion with. Most of the Catholic Byzantine Churches also do not use the term �Orthodox� in the name of their Church. This can be useful when looking up parishes in the telephone directory. Of course, if the telephone directory or the masthead of the Sunday Bulletin says only �St. Nicholas of Myra Church� that�s not much help! When all else fails, ask someone! www.byzcath.org is an unofficial forum and run by a layman of the Byzantine-Ruthenian Catholic Church. The Byzantine-Ruthenian Catholic Church in communion with Rome. The Forum is a Christian Forum with a special focus on the Christian East. Our participants and moderators include members of the Eastern and Western Churches. As Joe noted, the term �uniate� is a rather common one. It originally meant �Orthodox united with Rome� but in recent generations has taken on negative connotations. It should not have taken on such connotations but it did. Admin 
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Dear Andrew, This Forum is not run by any particular church, and is not the official board of the Byzantine Catholic Church. We have Roman and Byzantine Catholic along with Orthodox Christians that post on this board. If you review the user agreement which I am linking to this post, it should explain everything about who we are, and what our purpose is here. I would suggest you read it and it will give you a better understanding to the Byzantine Forum. User Agreement In IC XC, Father Anthony+ Adminstrator
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Originally posted by bupanishad2012: I was totally unaware that the term "Uniate" was a perjorative term! I had always seen it in books on theology, and never thought more about it. I'm sorry if I have unintentionally offended anyone.
Andrew Andrew, No worries... it is a common mistake. I'm sure that none of us here were offended in the least. We are glad that you are here at least asking the questions. So many Latins are unaware of the existence of the Eastern Catholic heritage! Let us know if we can answer any specific questions for you. To answer your question above, most eastern Catholic churches have the name "Catholic" in their title. They are called "Eastern Catholic", "Byzantine Catholic", "Melkite Greek-Catholic", "Ukrainian Catholic", "Romanian Catholic", "Russian Catholic", "Maronite Catholic", etc etc. There are close to 20 distinct Eastern Catholic churches that, with the Latins (who are far larger in population), make up the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. We tend to be small in the mustard seed sense, but are generally very welcoming and inviting communities of faith in Christ. Have you ever attended an Eastern-rite Divine Liturgy (Mass)? God bless, Gordo
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No, I have never attended an Eastern-Rite Church, but I have read a lot about them, and have studied their Liturgies. There is a new Eastern Church (I don't remember it's name) near where my daughter lives in Kansas City, actually Lenxa, KS, and I am just "chomping at the bit" to visit it. That's why I asked about affiliation, etc. I don't know of any in my area (Southwest Missouri), but will try to find one. As I've stated elsewhere, I have a transportation problem, and these groups tend to be somewhat isolated from the city center when they exist.
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When I was a young serminarian (sometime before the invention of the wheel) an older priest told me that when one attends the Divine Liturgy it should be possible to discern what Church one is in and what country one is in.
So we will normally commemorate the Pope at least once in the course of the service, and either commemorate the Sovereign, if there is one, or commemorate the country by its name. In disputed territories, this latter practice may be a bit problematic, but in general it causes no confusion - most of us can tell where Switzerland is and where Italy is, or something of the sort.
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Father Serge: Does a "serminarian" go on to become a priest and deliver "sermins"? Just having a light hearted moment...
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Originally posted by bupanishad2012: There is a new Eastern Church (I don't remember it's name) near where my daughter lives in Kansas City, actually Lenxa, KS, and I am just "chomping at the bit" to visit it. That's why I asked about affiliation, etc. I don't know of any Eastern-rite Catholic churches in Lenexa. I wonder if you are thinking of St. George Serbian Orthodox Church. They very recently moved to a magnificent new temple there. Their address is 11001 Greenwood Drive in Lenexa, Kansas. Our mission of Holy Protection Orthodox Church (ROCOR) also recently moved, to nearby Prairie Village, Kansas. Alas, we are very small, with very few persons "chomping at the bit" to visit us, but you are more than welcome anytime. Michael
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That may be the one I am thinking of. But, I am not familiar with the term ROCOR. Please enlighten me.
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Originally posted by bupanishad2012: That may be the one I am thinking of. But, I am not familiar with the term ROCOR. Please enlighten me.
Andrew Andrew ROCOR - the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia here is a link to their Site ROCOR [ synod.com] Abbreviations like this are really confusing till you are used to them
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Originally posted by bupanishad2012: That may be the one I am thinking of. But, I am not familiar with the term ROCOR. Please enlighten me.
Andrew Sorry. ROCOR is the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia. Another term that is sometimes used is the "Russian Synod." It's one of the Orthodox jurisdictions. I would post a link if I could figure out the technology... Michael
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Shlomo (Peace in Aramaic)Andrew,
Neither the Maronite Church, we do not have to use Catholic in our name, nor the Italo-Greek-Albanian Catholic Church have counter-parts.
Poosh BaShlomo (Stay in Peace), Yuhannon
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