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#104261 12/05/05 12:00 PM
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What's going on at ROCOR (Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia)? I seen three interesting trends towards accomodation with the West: 1.) Monasteries in the U.S. for English speakers, i.e. non-Russian speakers.; 2.) Large-scale success overseas, i.e. six ROCOR churches in Brazil; 3.) A wonderful multilingual website.

Do any ROCOR churches in the U.S. now offer the Divine Liturgy in English?

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Welcome!

"Do any ROCOR churches in the U.S. now offer the Divine Liturgy in English?"

Well, yes! Lots of them do and have for some time. If you go to the ROCOR web site you mentioned, click on the "Directory of Parishes." For each listing, the directory indicates the language(s) used in the services (with E = English, S = Slavonic, etc.).

Our little mission does its services almost entirely in English out of necessity: none of us can really speak Russian or chant much in Slavonic!

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I know a parish that is Carpath-Rusyn but gained jurisdiction under ROCOR. They specifically use English.
Many parishes that are under the Moscow Patriarch in the USA (ROCOR isn't) use the new calender and English.
It is different in my part of the country.. we still have many people that know the Slavonic and we have many new Americans that have come from Russia.
We just talked about our Christmas Caroling day to the shut-ins. We all agreed to sing some Slavonic Christmas Carols (learn them of course, there are a few to teach us) and I thought that was awesome, especially since we are an English speaking parish.

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Most MP parishes in the USA are Old Calendar, notwithstanding the Midwest...

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Absolutely they offer the DL in English. St. John of Kronstadt Press (Many years!!!) has published a great amount of liturgical materials and music in English for some time. The Unnabreviated Horologion from Jordanville is one of the best in my opinion.

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I believe that there is Divine Liturgy in English on Sundays at the Church Abroad's beautiful street-level chapel in the building of their Cathedral of Our Lady of the Sign in New York. There are occasionally English services at Jordanville.

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Last I heard from an English-speaking ROCOR gentleman who lives in Rochester, Jordanville has regularly scheduled (once or twice a month) English Divine Liturgies, often in the Cemetery's Dormition Church.

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Kollyvas,
That is what i was referring to, I should have been more clear.

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Not a problem. A few bad apples pushed new calendar propaganda in the late 1970s and early 1980s and packed parish councils and votes with liberals so it happened. I grew up in MI and saw firsthand. But whatcha gonna do? Forget your community, your memories? There is always a place to go celebrate Christmas on Jan. 7th. And, unlike elsewhere, the votes can be repeated and the calendar restored. Even EWTN keeps its Christmas decour up until past Jan. 7th. out of respect and fraternal well wishing for over 70% of the Orthodox who observe the calendar of Nicea, not to mention a sizeable number of Eastern riters...

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There is a ROCOR mission in Sunnyvale, CA, that has the whole liturgy in English. They do it quite well, too.


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