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Christos Voskrese!

I think the future of the Papacy is one of those great "unknowns." We just simply do not know under what incarnation it will be in the future. Right now we have a Slavic pope who seems to understand our issues and is sympathetic to the cause of the East of reunion. But the next Pope more than likely will be just a conservative(from the Latin perspective) as John Paul without the concern that His Holiness showed for the Eastern Churches. With the trends in Rome toward a restoration of Latin tradition and thought we could very well see a neo-ultra-montane Pontiff whose pre-occupation will be the restoration of the power and prestige of the Latin Church. And with the ascendancy of traditional Latin Catholicism over the horizon it is not a pipedream anymore to surmise a restoration of this form of Catholicism for the majority of Latin Catholics; which may have a negative effect on Eastern Catholic Churches with their goal of ressourcement. It's really all up in the air until we see the white smoke again.

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Dear Memo,

Your view of us as being "borderline" whatever and also Brendan's view of us being "relativistic" does show the peculiar vocation to which Eastern Catholics are called.

We are viewed with suspicion by BOTH the Latin West and the Orthodox East as we struggle in our commitment to remain true to the vision of the Church in terms of "unity in diversity."

To me, Roman Catholics and Orthodox seem to be in full agreement with one another when it comes to Eastern Catholics - we are neither "here" nor "there" and we should therefore make a definite choice.

We have made a choice and we will continue to defend our stance with a foot in both East and West until the reunion of Churches, as equals, with full respect of each other's patrimony etc. is achieved.

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What about the Western Uniates of Orthodoxy? What are they? A Roman Patriarchate?

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Dear Ruel,

Following the thoughts as proposed, I would say that the "Uniates of Orthodoxy" are maintaining diversity in unity.

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does the Pope appoint patriarchs in the east or do their own churches elect them ?

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I understand that they are elected by the synod of the Churches.

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According to Catholic belief, the Pope posseses full and supreme power of jurisdication over the whole Church, not merely in matters of faith and morals, but also in Church Discipline and in the government of the Church.
This is a Dogma which is de fide.
According to Canon 333 The Roman Pontiff, by virtue of his office, not only has power in the universal Church but also possesses a primacy of ordinary power over all the particular Churches (sui juris) and groupings of churches by which the proper, ordinary and immediate power which bishops possess in the particular Churches intrusted to their care is both strengthened and safeguarded.
The Roman Pontiff, in fulfilling the office of the supreme pastor of the Church is always united in communion with the other Bishops of the Church and with the universal Church;
however, he has the right, according to the needs of the Church, to determine the manner, either personal or collegial, of exercise of this function.
There is neither appeal nor recourse against a decision or decree of the Roman Pontiff.

That being said, we have to admit that Jurisdiction is by divine right as taught in the Scriptures and the Fathers of the Church, and therfore it is a Dogma.
However as The Pope of Rome himself has said, how that Jurisdiction is carried out is not a matter of dogma and therefore he has invited mainly the Orthodox but other Christians too to discuss how this "ministry of service to the universal Church" might be best carried out.

Stephanos I

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