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#106868 12/14/05 12:32 AM
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I came up with that number using the latest in technology. It is called the FOS data conifiguration electronic mean mode average designator.

#106869 12/14/05 01:26 AM
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This is my opinion: Before all the churches in Christ are one with the communtion of the Roman Church, the Roman Church must be in union with herself. The Chair of St. Peter in order to remain the Chair of St. Peter a new Pope may not invalidate all that a prior Pope established. Case in point: Pope Marinus I invalidated all that Pope John VIII decreed. This was in 882 AD. Pope Marinus I was elected on the same day that Pope John VIII died! He even claimed that Pope John VIII was not a pope at all, claiming that he was a woman. The fact is that Pope John VIII was the last orthodox pope. The Chair of St. Peter was held from St. Clement I to Pope John VIII - 103 popes in all. Both Rome and the East should be in union with these 103 popes.

--Just a thought
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The bottom line is as humans we are sinners, no matter what our walk in life is.

However, the Church is holy, the Holy Spirit has never left it. It still contains the truths of Christ and his Church.

Pani Rose

#106871 12/14/05 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by JohnVIII:
This is my opinion: Before all the churches in Christ are one with the communtion of the Roman Church, the Roman Church must be in union with herself. The Chair of St. Peter in order to remain the Chair of St. Peter a new Pope may not invalidate all that a prior Pope established. Case in point: Pope Marinus I invalidated all that Pope John VIII decreed. This was in 882 AD. Pope Marinus I was elected on the same day that Pope John VIII died! He even claimed that Pope John VIII was not a pope at all, claiming that he was a woman. The fact is that Pope John VIII was the last orthodox pope. The Chair of St. Peter was held from St. Clement I to Pope John VIII - 103 popes in all. Both Rome and the East should be in union with these 103 popes.

--Just a thought
--Adrian
Wow, that is some kind of sedevacantist! frown eek eek

#106872 12/14/05 12:41 PM
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The fact is that Pope John VIII was the last orthodox pope.
--Just a thought
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Dear Adrian,

Is this a thought, or a fact?

the unworthy,

Elias

#106873 12/14/05 12:47 PM
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...and I thought you had taken your 'pen name' from the emperor of the same name and number! But I see, you probably took the name of the Pope....

#106874 12/15/05 02:24 AM
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A Pope by the way is free and does not ever have to follow what the previous Pope before him decreed. Of course one must realize that no Pope can go against the teaching of the Church.
Any human tradition or legal matters of the Church are subject to change, they can be abrogated or those laws or traditions which have ceased can be re instated.
Stephanos I

And PS, by the way, the Church which has as its esential nature unity can never be Dis United.
Individuals within the Church can not be in union with other members, but the Church of God is always the Church of God and united.

#106875 12/17/05 09:13 AM
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[b] 94.3254% of the time everyone here gets along.
Wow, how did you come up with such a precise figure? biggrin :p
Some of us would say more like 83.924% of the time....
-Daniel [/b]
Daniel,

I strongly disagree. The figure is much closer to 94.3254%....er...uh...I just think I lowered that calculation. shocked Sorry.

CDL

#106876 12/19/05 11:15 AM
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Dear Adrian,

In fact, Orthodoxy recognizes as the last "Orthodox Pope" the Pope of Rome just before 1054 AD as the "cut-off" date for it.

Also, are you saying that Eastern and Western Christians should also be in communion with Pope Honorius I, the pope who arguably was implicated with the Monothelite heresy and who was formally anathematized by all his papal successors until the 12th century?

Alex

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