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Dear Mark,

Are you a Lay Carmelite yourself? Are you into the scapular devotion? I am!

Yes, the Carmelite tradition, like the Orthodox, does not use last names in describing their monastics or Saints.

One dedicates oneself to a particular devotion i.e. the Holy Face, the Child Jesus etc.

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As usual coming to things a bit late. wink

Here St Therese is usually known as St Therese of the Child Jesus , which if my memory serves me right, is the name she took in her religious life.

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Making Saints
In a nutshell, there are 4 steps along the road to sainthood.

Servant of God
Title issued as soon as a cause opens.

Venerable
Once a decree of heroic virue is issued by the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, the candidate is "Venerable"

Blesed
Once one miracle has been authenticated, the cause is sent to the pope as a possible blessed

Saint
Once beatified and one more miracle is accepted, case is sent to the pope for canonization.

HOWEVER: MARTYRS do NOT need a miracle to be declared blessed or canonized.

In the case of the beatifications in Ukraine last June,all except one person (Sr. Josaphata) were MARTYRS. Blessed Josaphata did have one authenticated miracle. Others are currently being documented and investigated.
These days, since most miracles involve healing, a group of Roman physicians known as the Consulta Medica review cases and determine if there is a medical explanation for what has happened. They don't declare "yes, this was miraculous", but "we can find no scientific explanation for what happened."

If you followed closely the Ukraine beatifications, you would have noticed that there were four groupings or icons that were presented to the Holy Father.
The first grouping was Blessed Nicholaj Charnetsky and companions.
All of these died at the hands of the Soviet regime.
Blessed Theodor Romzha was from a different eparchy/country. His case was prepared separately.
Blessed Emilian Kowcz was martyred under the Nazi regime.
Blessed Josaphata was not a martyr.

Ultimately is is the Pope who choses to beatify the person.

When a person is declared Blessed, she/he is given a particular litury and a place on the local Church calendar and there can be public devotion to him/her in the church.

What if a person is never canonized? never beatified? Never declared venerable? She/he still has a feast day. All who died in God's grace do, including our loved ones.
That's what All Siants Day is all about.

We have such a "cloud of witnesses", it is incumbent upon us to storm heaven for their intercession for us.

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Bless me a sinner, Reverend Father Deacon Yurij!

Excellent!

And may the day come when our local Particular Churches glorify their own saints and martyrs.

The Pope has really activated the local Church by beatifying so many around the world.

The next step, in my humble view, is to restore the old Catholic order of allowing localities to beatify and Rome to canonize.

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Alex,

No I am not a lay Carmelite (who knows? one day maybe). I am just a Christian who has had the good fortune to become friends with one of the Carmalites here in Dallas (though he is not the one that is my spritual director). Wonderful men doing wonderful work on a shoe-string budget.

When I came to the University of Dallas I was not familiar with the brown scapular but many of my fellow students wore it.

So I gave into temptation and along with smoking I picked up the habit (I'm sorry it had to be done) of wearing the scapular. But I didn't really understand the devotion. More of "get out jail free card" attitude. Anyway, in my job as a writer for Dallas diocesan newspaper I did a story on a scapular conference at the Carmalite center. I interviewed Father Sam Anthony Morello who is located here. He has done work in Rome and in America with other Carmalites developing an update on the scapular. Through talking to him I have a much greater appreciation of the devotion and the seriousness one should have about wearing the scapular. For more information on what the church teaches on this wonderful sacramental go to this link: Scapular devotion page. [mtcarmeldallas.org]

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Our Lady's slave of love,

Yes, you are right. It is Therese of the Child Jesus. Not infant. Good catch.

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The name of Therese Martin, we know popularly as Saint Therese of Lisieux. Her full name 'in religion' was "Therese of the child Jesus, and of the Holy Face". In french, "l'Enfant Jesus", is sometimes translated "child Jesus" sometimes, "infant Jesus". It depends on the book. Msgr. Knox, (best) translator of the "autobiography" renders it "child" and most follow this tradition.

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KEY PHASE OF MOTHER TERESA�S CAUSE COULD END BY EASTER

Sacred Heart Priest Is Studying Her "Dark Night of the Soul"

VATICAN CITY, (Zenit.org).- One of the most important steps for Mother Teresa�s beatification could be concluded by Easter, a priest working on the cause revealed.

Father Michael Van der Peet sent a letter to the Priests of the Sacred Heart, his brothers in religion (published in http://www.scj.org), in which he gives details on the progress of the process.

Father Van der Peet, who belongs to the U.S. province of his congregation, arrived in Rome two months ago to work with postulator Brian Kolodiejchuk, two other priests, nine Missionary Sisters of Charity, and a group of volunteers who work part-time, comprising priests, religious and lay people.

"The diocesan phase of Mother Teresa�s cause in Calcutta was concluded last fall," Father Van der Peet says. "We are now working on the �Roman� phase called the �positio,� which according to plans has to be concluded by Easter."

"We are going through the �meat� of the oral testimony and documents from the 80 volumes of material we have on hand," he adds.

In particular, Father Van der Peet must study a key question in Mother Teresa�s life.

"I have been asked to write a chapter on the spiritual life of Mother Teresa which comprises not only the work of her union with Christ, her mystical experiences, etc., but also the �Dark Night of the Soul� which was very much part of most of her life," Father Van der Peet explains.

"It is not an easy task, to say the least, and I am asking for your prayers," he says. He adds that these difficult moments were due to her "great identification with the poor."

Last September, Archbishop Henry D�Souza of Calcutta revealed that Mother Teresa experienced severe interior trials.

He told the story of the time Mother Teresa was in the Woodlands Hospital in 1996. She was found to be very perturbed, suffering from doubts and profound fears. She was hospitalized because of heart problems, and was unable to sleep.

Archbishop D�Souza thought that perhaps an evil spirit was trying to steal her interior peace and confidence in God. So he asked Father Rosario Stroscio, 79, a Salesian priest of Sicilian origin, to pray over her, with a prayer used for exorcisms. But it was not an exorcism as such.

This story led news agencies to report that Archbishop Souza told the Salesian: "You command the devil to go if he�s there. In the name of the Church, as archbishop, I command you to go and do it."

Later, the archbishop clarified: "I did not think she was possessed by an evil spirit."

In his letter, Father Van der Peet reveals: "The result of the work we are doing now will be submitted to a commission of nine theological experts chosen by the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints."

The commission "will submit their findings to the Holy Father, who e-mails the final decision to proceed to the beatification or not," the priest states. "It is generally expected that the Holy Father will not wait very long to go ahead."

Father Van der Peet met Mother Teresa in 1975 when she was waiting for a bus. She asked him to preach the Spiritual Exercises to some novices. This began a long friendship.

The priest in his letter touches on the working conditions of those responsible in Rome for carrying forward the process of beatification.

"The building where we are working is a home for the homeless," he writes. "The work quarters are kind of cramped. It is truly Mother Teresa�s world."

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Dear Mark,

Yes, some Russian Byzantine Catholics related to me how the scapular devotion is connected to devotion to the Holy Protection of the Mother of God and, seen in that light, it can be a wonderful external expression of devotion to the Protection, to be sure.

Roman Catholics also have pictures of Our Lady holding Her mantle of Protection over individuals and Orders.

Another Eastern interpretation of it is that it represents the Cross of Christ that one wears on one's shoulder.

Certainly, the Scapular of Eastern Monks, the "polystavrion" covered with Crosses, front and back, is given that interpretation when the Monks of the Great Schema receive it.

And the Carmelites were originally Greek Monks living on Mt. Carmel, before they were taken over by Latin monks after the defeat of the Crusaders at Akkar.

Before them, there were Jewish prophets living on Mt. Carmel.

The Greek monks found a Cave that was apparently dedicated by St Elias to the "Mother of the Messiah to come."

The icon of Our Lady of Mount Carmel is today in Naples, Italy. I have a poster of this miraculous icon from there and it is very much a beautiful Byzantine Icon of the Mother of God with dark skin which is why She is also called the "Brown Madonna" and "Our Lady of Naples."

Scapulars from the Carmelites at Naples still have the brown and white striped style worn by the original Greek and Latin monks of Mt. Carmel of long ago.

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Dear Catholicos,

Mother Teresa belonged to that rare category of Christian who was venerated as a saint while she yet lived on earth!

Her canonization is inevitable and will occur soon - perhaps setting a record.

The really nice thing is that she is venerated by Catholics and Orthodox of all stripes and Robert Lentz has a beautiful Byzantine icon of her in the pose of Our Lady of Perpetual Help.

I once came across an Orthodox Christian who had a picture of Mother Teresa in his corner.

I know it's hard to believe, but I sometimes like to provoke people smile . I hope you were sitting down when you read that :p

I told the fellow that she was Roman Catholic . . .

His reply was, "yes, but it wasn't really her fault, she was born that way. . ."

Either way, I'm cool with it!

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Dear Catholicos,

Mother Teresa belonged to that rare category of Christian who was venerated as a saint while she yet lived on earth!

Alex

Alex,

Mother Teresa and Pope John Paul II are two souls that are dear to my heart, though I've never really met either of them. I have been fortunate to live on this earth in the same days as these two titan figures of goodness and justice. I come from a rather violent culture where the opposite of everything these two persons stand for is honored. A culture of teen mothers, of teen fathers who "raise" their children to avoid toys and only place importance on cloths, jewelery, and the taking from others as the "real" things of life. A culture from where we as teens served each other "violations" (beatings) if any of us coward and failed to help fight in fights. A time period from where once childhood friends playing tag would grow up to set up another for murder visiting their parents home over disputes in drug dealing.

For myself I have saw hope and goodness in humanity when I would see Mother Teresa or John Paul II on tv.

I truely in all sincerity credit a small mirical in my life, or what I at least consider a mirical, to Mother Teresa. I had been previously praying devotly to the our Holy Mother and too Mother Teresa. For me with totally unexpected outcomes I come to find out that my good fortune took place on the aniversery of Mother Teresa's death. I cannot explain it but I know that Mother Teresa had involvement. It's more then just me wanting to believe or manufacturing feelings in my mind. Some how I knew right a way on Sep. 5, 2001 that my fortune was credit to Mother Teresa and not so much our Holy Mother. Later I would come to find out that Sep. 5th 1997 was the day Mother Teresa departed this world.

Of course I could be wrong. But I chose to believe Mother Teresa was involved in my life at that time. Again it is something I can not explain it is just something I somehow know.

She was a good woman, and a credit to humanity. And though she wore no queens robe or owned any royal jewelery or found herself not with the physical beauty to draw the attraction and courting of our most handsome and well-to-do men. She was more woman then I will ever be man.

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Dear Maximus:

Your last post is one of the most beautiful and moving I have ever read on the Byzantine Forum.

May God guide and protect you in all your endevours and lead you to his salvation.


Sincerely
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Why would you have a problem with St. Pio? We already refer Pope St. Pius the 10th as St. Pius X. Someday, Pope Pius XII might be canonized. He will be called St. Pius too. Padre Pio was named after an early martyr. Pius means "faithful to one's duties" eek

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Dear Mike C:

I think that our learned collegue "Orthodox-Catholic" was just trying to be humorous.


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defreitas,

Thank you for your kind words. Though I hope I didn't make things out to be to dramatic.

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