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I stand corrected. According to their website, it's 30. However, the real point remains, they are not permitted to open any new parishes, according to their agreement.
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Dear Father Thomas,
Just to show how uninformed I am, I was not aware until this minute that the Moscow Patriarchate in the USA even had a website. Could you post the address? I'm trying to locate a friend who is a cleric of theirs.
The agreement which led to the Tomos of autocephaly for what is now the Orthodox Church in America does indeed state that the Moscow Patriarchate will not open new parishes in the USA. However, the original question which gave rise to this thread is a request for the difference between a Russian Orthodox Church and an OCA Church. The great majority of Russian Orthodox parishes in the USA do not belong to the Moscow Patriarchate - they normally belong either the Church Abroad or to the OCA, and both of those jurisdictions are fully capable of opening new parishes. [There are a very small number of Old Ritualist parishes with an Archbishop in Oregon, subordinate to the Metropolitan of Belaia Krinitsia, but relatively few of our readers are likely to run across them. And there are a small number of parishes belonging to the Carpatho-Russian Orthodox diocese but styling themselves Russian Orthodox, presumably for reasons having to do with the history of the individual parish.]
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Dear Father Thomas,
Just to show how uninformed I am, I was not aware until this minute that the Moscow Patriarchate in the USA even had a website. Could you post the address? I'm trying to locate a friend who is a cleric of theirs.
[ russianchurchusa.org]
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This is pretty much as I thought it was but I was looking for clarification.
It gets confusing - each church is organized independently of each other. Some have broken away from Rome, some are in communion with Rome.
But I am learning ...
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[QUOTESome have broken away from Rome, But I am learning ... [/QB][/QUOTE] Well, not as simple as that! 
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Dear Tony,
Many thanks for providing that web site. As a result of your kindness, I've located my cleric friend and found some other interesting information as well.
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Originally posted by The Roamin' Catholic:
This is pretty much as I thought it was but I was looking for clarification.
It gets confusing - each church is organized independently of each other. Some have broken away from Rome, some are in communion with Rome.
But I am learning ... Of course Orthodox would say that either a) Rome broke away from these churches [ie. The Orthodox] or b) that these Churches [ie. the Eastern Catholics] broke away from Orthodoxy or c) Rome and these Churches broke away from each other gradually and the Eastern Catholic Churches are a product of union attempts that were only partially successful. But it's good that you have an interest in us and if you keep to it long enough, you'll "get" us. Anastasios
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Originally posted by Fr. Thomas:
�I am not privy to any of the negotiations, obviously. However, I would advise that the OCA also has a joint commission with the ROC and this issue is being addressed. ...�
Father Thomas, Bless!
Your point is well taken that the reception of the ROCOR into Moscow Patriarchate should not contribute to the plethora of jurisdictions overlapping uncononically. Neither am I privy to the negotiations; however, you may be able to suggest to your hierarchy that the matter needs to be address, and perhaps Metropoliton Herman can address that to his peer, Patriarch Alexis. Probably, we are not the first people to consider this problem.
A complicating factor is that ROCOR encompasses a much greater territory than does the OCA. In order for the ROCOR to be a part of the OCA, ROCOR would have to be subdivided into a North American branch and another branch or branches. Because ROCOR is a small, tight-knit community, this seems to defeat whatever is accomplished by allowing them to be self-governing within MP. I assume that what is accomplished by this is simple expediency to get around customs and associations and whatnot that have evolved separately in the two branches of the Russian Church from getting in the way of reestablishing Eucharistic Communion.
Whatever comes to pass, I anticipate that the overlapping jurisdictions will be temporary, that in a few generations, no one will any longer care about the squabbles of the twentieth century or of the present moment, and canonical sanity will be restored.
Kissing your right hand,
Photius, Reader
PS Today is a special feast for me, as when I was tonsured a Reader, the Apostolos used was copied when St. Gregory Palamas was abbot (of Esphigmenou, where I was a novice at the time), which fact is inscribed in the manuscript.
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