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Here is an icon of Saint Anthony of Padua from Monastery Icons: [ Linked Image] Look at the far right side of this photo, near the middle. Now look carfully at the image of the saint who is to the right of the crucifix. It sure looks like Saint Anthony! [ Linked Image] I've been to this church before, so I plan to visit it again and see it with my own eyes. I'll let you know if it really is Saint Anthony of Padua. I am very curious about this.
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From that painting from Monastery Icons it sure looks like the Icon in the Church is that of Saint Anthony of Padua.
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Indeed it does. Ah, if only Alex were here. What is the name of this Church? Does it have a website?
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Originally posted by carson daniel lauffer:
Indeed it does. Ah, if only Alex were here. What is the name of this Church? Does it have a website?
CDL The church is Holy Trinity Russian Orthodox Church (ROCOR) in Oxnard , CA where the late Bishop Alexander Mileant served before his falling asleep in the Lord. The parish website is currently offline. The closest thing is this link on the late Bishop Alexander's website: www.fatheralexander.org/page14.htm [ fatheralexander.org] That where I noticed the icon of Saint Anthony of Padua in the church interior.
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Yes, the Franciscan cord is visible and distinctive... I have a couple Orthodox friends with St. Francis icons.
If not St. Anthony, then I'd love to know who it is!
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The only e-mail contact address I could find on the web site is:
theology_school_eng@holytrinitymission.org
Does anyone want to write to Bishop Alexander and ask about the icon?
I can't see the icon clearly enough in the picture, sorry.
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Originally posted by Orest:
The only e-mail contact address I could find on the web site is:
theology_school_eng@holytrinitymission.org
Does anyone want to write to Bishop Alexander and ask about the icon?
I can't see the icon clearly enough in the picture, sorry. Unfortunately, Bishop Alexander passed away on September 2005.  I have visited the church before but didn't notice the image of Saint Anthony until I saw the photos on the web. I plan to visit again soon to confirm whether or not it's Saint Anthony.
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As +Bishop Alexander was very active in outreaching to the Hispanic community, translating numerous services and spiritual writings into Spanish and Portuquese, I would not be surprised at all if the icon in question turns out to be St Anthony.
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I would be very surprized. In the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, only saints canonized or accepted by our church would be portrayed on icons.
No iconographer's manual I have consulted includes an icon with a saint holding the Christ Child (except the Mother of God) and not the Christ Child standing on a book.
Could the inclusion of this item be the result of Bishop Alexander's personal piety as implied above?
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The image is difficult to make out. But in general, one should be aware that "Monastery Icons" is run by a community which is more Hindu than Christian and certainly does not follow Orthodox canons when it comes to their "iconography". I most strenuously advise never taking them for an example, never purchasing anything from them, and above all never allowing anything from them in one's home or one's church.
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Took a closer look with a Photoshop-type program.
It sure does look like St.AoP. When it's expanded, even when pixelated, it's really hard to think of anyone else it could be.
I suppose intercommunal icons aren't really too unusual. I know a Greek Catholic Church with icons of St. John of Kronstadt and St. Photios. I'm just a bit surprised that it's ROCOR.
And artistically, I would put a Mexican/Spanish-style retablo rather than an icon. I just find icons of western themes a bit weird.
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Isn't it also unusual to find a crucifix in a ROCOR Church? Or in any Orthodox Church? Originally posted by griego catolico: Here is an icon of Saint Anthony of Padua from Monastery Icons:
[Linked Image]
Look at the far right side of this photo, near the middle. Now look carfully at the image of the saint who is to the right of the crucifix.
It sure looks like Saint Anthony!
[Linked Image]
I've been to this church before, so I plan to visit it again and see it with my own eyes. I'll let you know if it really is Saint Anthony of Padua.
I am very curious about this.
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Originally posted by Two Lungs:
Isn't it also unusual to find a crucifix in a ROCOR Church? Or in any Orthodox Church?
No, it is not unusual to find a crucifix in an Orthodox Church. In the Greek practice the crucifix with removable corpus is kept in the sanctuary behind the altar. It is processed out Holy Thursday/Friday and the corpus is removed at the conclusion of the vespers of Holy Friday. In the Slavic practice it is generally stored on the side as you see pictured and generally in the area where memorial services are performed. More than likely in the Slavic practice the corpus is not removable from the cross. The metal crucifix (the smaller one below the other large iconic crucifix) is on the memorial table, before which candles are lit for the deceased and a memorial service would be held. I hope this clarifies this matter. In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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We have a three bar cross crucifix that sits on our tetrapod.
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There is most definitely a permanent Crucifix at St. George Patriarchal Church (EP). It is located at the top of the Iconostasis. [ Linked Image]
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