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#116068 04/04/05 04:43 PM
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What languages does Patriarch Lubomyr Cardinal Husar of the UGCC speak?

One of +Pope John Paul II's strengths was that he spoke in many languages.

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Not sure of the complete list, but know it includes English, Ukrainian and Italian. Others here could probably add whatever I have missed out.

Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!

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Italian definitely is good, and if he knows a little Latin all the better! smile

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Thanks my friends.

Italian and English are a plus for a Pope.

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Italian definitely is good, and if he knows a little Latin all the better! smile
Did they require Latin at the seminary in Stamford while the Patriarch was there? He could have also picked it up while continuing studies in Rome (would not come as a surprise).

Also, I should have added that the Patirarch is bound to know Church Slavonic. Then again - not really a conversational language these days.

Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!

#116073 04/04/05 08:24 PM
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If he can speak Italian - and Latin - Spanish will not be too difficult.

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"Did they require Latin at the seminary in Stamford while the Patriarch was there? He could have also picked it up while continuing studies in Rome (would not come as a surprise)."

His studies were conducted in Latin, nearly certainly.

"Also, I should have added that the Patriarch is bound to know Church Slavonic."

Are you sure? I would suspect he may be required to be able to serve in it, but not necessarily to *know* it.

"Then again - not really a conversational language these days."

These days? It was never a conversational language; it is an artificial language formed from Ancient Slavonic with many Greek syntactical constructions and numerous foreign, mostly Greek, words. I've read that when the first services were conducted in it, some people laughed.

Nearly 30 years ago, I taught myself to converse in it. While I've encountered many people who could understand me ... and found it helpful speaking to Slavic Clergy and monks with whom I share no modern language ... I've only encountered one other person (an author of a book on Church Slavonic) who could converse back correctly with me.

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#116075 04/05/05 12:24 AM
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Well since any baptized male can be elected pope what about a married eastern priest?
Wouldnt that be something!
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Dear Stephanos,

The Pope must also be single. I tried talking my wife into..., but she wouldn't go for it.

Just kidding! I'm already "Pope" of my household.

Just delusional! biggrin

Paul

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Actually, I was thinking that Incognitus has good support in the Forum conclave for pope, but you never know. If he doesn't win, then you may have a chance, Paul. The primary candidate doesn't always win. I would like to see an Eastern pope, but I suspect I will see pigs in habits flying over the Vatican, first. wink biggrin

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I'll watch for the pigs in habits - whether flying or just strolling - when I'm in Rome next week

And I'll also let you know if I see anyone with a paper bag on his head biggrin - you just never know about that wee happening - I'll try and grab a photo if I can biggrin

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Interesting question (a la "Shoes of the Fisherman"?), but I don't think so. The way it seems to me (at least nowadays (as opposed to 400AD)):

1. The Pope is the Patriarch of the Latin Church. There is no "dual citizenship", i.e. membership in more than 1 autonomous Catholic Church (ecclesia sui iuris). So how could the Patriarch of one church be not a member of that Church?

2. Eastern Clerics are not supposed to accept ecclesial honours etc. in other Catholic Churches (and presumably, ecclesial positions).

3. I suppose that Hierarch "X" might transfer memebership into the Latin Church, and then be elected to its Patriarchal See, but then the person would no longer be Eastern. Therefore, not an "Eastern Pope".

Let the Latins submit to the Spirit and choose their Patriarch, after God's own heart; and we shall all rejoice.

I think we should not ordinarily interfer in their elections - nor they in ours. Let mutual respect, love, prayer, and Communion in God be enough.

Let the Latin Church do the task God has set before it, and let us do the task that God has set before us.

Christ is risen!

Herb

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Charles

I'll watch for the pigs in habits - whether flying or just strolling - when I'm in Rome next week

And I'll also let you know if I see anyone with a paper bag on his head biggrin - you just never know about that wee happening - I'll try and grab a photo if I can biggrin

Anhelyna
HEHEHE. biggrin

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Herb:

I must admit that I have on more than one occasion asked the same questions as you have.

I respectfully submit that they are only a slight variation on the question of how one envisions the best role for the Roman Pope to play vis a vis the Universal Church.

When we figure that out, much (although certainly not all) of the other stuff will fall into place.

Yours,

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Dear All:

Would not His Beatitude have to also be well-versed in Greek based upon his academic studies?

BTW, the seminary at the UGCC Eparchy in Stamford holds classes primarily in English, not in Latin (although I believe Latin is part of the coursework).

Yours,

hal

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