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#120690 07/25/05 06:10 AM
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The Armenian and Assyrian Churches look Western to me, but both follow the DL of St. JC correct ? These are non-byz rite churches kind of like the Maronites correct ? confused confused confused

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The Armenian and Assyrian Churches follow liturgies that are different from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. The Armenians follow their own rite which is unique to them. The Assyrians follow a liturgical rite that is either East or West Syriac. I know someone can correct me on this. This particular rite is practiced by a number of the Oriental Orthodox and those that have re-entered communion with Rome. I would suggest that you either go into the search directory or Google it to see if you can get a video clip of both liturgical rites.

I have seen both rites served only once each, and they are quite different from the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom and from either the Tridentine or Novus Ordo Masses.

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Very good, Father. The Assyrian Church of the East uses the East Syrian Anaphora of Sts. Addai and Mari most commonly. The Liturgy is quite different than the Byzantine. This Anaphora is certainly one of the oldest still in direct use.

This Anaphora is also unique in that the Words of Institution are implicit, not explicit, while the Epiclesis is explicit. The Chaldean Catholics have, however, also added the words of institution to their text of the Quorbano.

The Armenian liturgy would be closer and more recognizable to the Byzantine.

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The Armenian and Assyrian Churches look Western to me, but both follow the DL of St. JC correct ? These are non-byz rite churches kind of like the Maronites correct ?
Those are non-Byzantine Churches, yes. All three actually, the Armenians the Assyrians and the Maronites.

And as such, none of them use the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.

The Maronites are Western Syrian and use the Divine Liturgy of St. James (perhaps in a slightly different form of the one used by the Byzantines).

The Assyrians are Eastern Syrian and use several liturgies, I think. The most notorious is, as it was mentioned, the Anaphora of Sts. Addai and Mari.

The Armenians are not closely related to any other Liturgical family. The Armenian Liturgy is close to the earlier versions of the Liturgy of St. Basil, and Byzantines would recognize some of its elements, but it is still rather unique, and VERY beautiful.

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Dear Memo,

How so "notorious?"

In the Greek Fathers Sts. Nestorius, the witness to the truth, Theodore of Mopsuestia and Diodore of Tarsus, wink

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