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I would help but I live in Birmingham now. biggrin Besides, I would have no idea really unfortunately. As it is, here in Birmingham, we have a Serbian and a Greek one but those are EO not EC... smile

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as wife due in 4 weeks
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CONGRATULATIONS !!!
Don't forget to wet the baby's head when he/she is born.
Prayers for a safe and healthy delivery.

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Thanks for your prayers, mother and baby to be both well (Kicking like crazy!)

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Since I am just back and this has been sitting for a while I'll add my wee bittie :p

ECs in Scotland are sadly lacking frown Your best bet is to phone Fr Lubomyr in Edinburgh - do make sure you use 0131-667-5993 , though the site gives another number for a Residence that does not seem to reach him - Kyr Pavlo told me I had been using the wrong number.

This is the good bit of news - Edinburgh still exists and Divine Liturgy is served there every Sunday at 11 am in their own Church.

Glasgow has gone - and I can't answer about the rest of the Scottish Communities.

It really is very sad - it's a good job I can get to Lourdes twice a year and then the occasional weekend in London so I can get to the Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral there - and by the way it's official title is Holy Family not Holy Family in Exile which was I believe given by Gaudior.

Hope all this helps - I know I am really going to miss the Divine Liturgy of St John this weekend - please all of you keep me in your prayers at the moment - I could do with their help and support.

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Hope all this helps - I know I am really going to miss the Divine Liturgy of St John this weekend - please all of you keep me in your prayers at the moment - I could do with their help and support.

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Thanks for the info - prayers, consider it done!

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Hmm, will have to select smaller avatar!

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Hmmm...

I THOUGHT it was only Holy Family, Anhelyna, but a website with all Cathedrals in the UK still listed it as Holy Family in Exile, so I wrote that.

Ukrainians, as a whole, are not fond of Church websites...even in Ukrainian...Let us hope that they realize this important tool, and create more websites!

Gaudior, who relies on Google rather a bit... wink

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Hmmm...
I THOUGHT it was only Holy Family, Anhelyna, but a website with all Cathedrals in the UK still listed it as Holy Family in Exile, so I wrote that.
Ukrainians, as a whole, are not fond of Church websites...even in Ukrainian...Let us hope that they realize this important tool, and create more websites!
Gaudior, who relies on Google rather a bit... wink
Oh agreed there - the Site does show it as Holy Family in Exile - but my understanding is that the Clergy have agreed that it should be called "Holy Family " now and the' in Exile 'should be quietly dropped.

Certainly the Site could do with being updated - Glasgow sadly must be removed from the list - and as it is no longer active I truly wonder how many of the others have gone as well.

This also brings up another point which may become a topic of discussion - as I was told that Glasgow had 'Died out ' because of the age of the members - I am left wondering what had happened to the children of the original members ?

Glasgow has Italians , Poles [ and they have a very thriving Group with their own Priest ] some Lithuanians - some Ukies must still exist here - so where are they ? Even more I simply do not believe that there are no Eastern Catholics here. The Greeks are well served by St Luke's GO Cathedral - it certainly is very active - far more so than I realised - the Russian Orthodox seem to be flourishing - so why not any ECs ? I have met an EC family in my Latin Parish but they have not been seen for a while I have to admit.

So what can be done ?? Holy Family Cathedral is , I understand , bulging at the seams - how can we attract some of these folk to the North to spread the Wonders and Joy of the East ?

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So what can be done ?? Holy Family Cathedral is , I understand , bulging at the seams - how can we attract some of these folk to the North to spread the Wonders and Joy of the East ?

Anhelyna [/QB][/QUOTE]

Well, Scotland is de-populating, a fact not lost on the Scottish Executive. There are rumblings of encouraging immigration to counter this, however, immigration is a matter 'reserved' to the Westminster parliament (London). Unless our birth rate takes a huge jump something will have to be done though. I think the Executive would like Scotland to be like Ireland economically which would mean a lot of workers coming here. There are certainly more EC's there than here and the EO's are the fastest growing religion in Eire.

So here's hoping!

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Agreed - here's hoping - but of course one of the biggest problems is the fact that ECs are not known about over here . If you phoned our Archdiocese offices and asked where they met for DL in Glasgow you would be met with silence - yes that did happen to someone. They do not have a clue - and didn't even when there were ECs officially in Glasgow frown

I think it's now well over 2 years since the Scottish Catholic Observer did a short series of articles on Churches named after St Andrew - and they actually did mention the Ukie Church in Edinburgh - Our Lady of Pochaev and St Andrew. They did then promise a series of articles on the various Eastern Churches in Scotland - but guess what - nowt.

When I heard that Kyr Pavlo was coming to Scotland for his first visit I contacted the SCO and reminded them of their promise - I even gave them the dates of his visit and people they could contact. You can guess the outcome.

Ah well - at least if you travel to Dublin you are sure of a warm welcome from Fr Serge there [ Oh now there's a thing - have you realised that there is normally an account of the Celebrations of Christmas and Pascha in Dublin posted here ? I think they are sent to Admin and he posts them for us to read. They make wonderful reading smile ]

Well there are now 2 of us here trying to encourage the Growth of the Eastern Churches

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Dear Anhelyna,

Don't know if you saw my post on the Prayer thread, so, "welcome back and welcome home!" wink

Love in Christ our Lord,
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I did indeed see it Alice and gave a big smile.

It is good to be back among so many folk I can call friends

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Hello!
I tracked down the thread in which I asked about DL in London. It's at: https://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002707

At the time I was given a link with a very useful directory of Catholic DL's in London which is: http://www.bzcathlinks.org.uk/cgi-bin/links/ilink.cgi?Category=Directory%3Aliturgies%20-%20London

The thing is, I just tried the link, and although it's not broken, the directory has no listings! The other directories likewise. Don't know why or what's going on, and although I think I wrote down the address and times of the Ethiopian service somewhere, I'd have to look for it. Strange about the link...

A catholic living in Scotland... would it be rudely stereotypical for me to assume you might be a Celtic fan? And if so I have still not forgiven you for losing to FC Porto two years ago!
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At the time I was given a link with a very useful directory of Catholic DL's in London which is: http://www.bzcathlinks.org.uk/cgi-bin/links/ilink.cgi?Category=Directory%3Aliturgies%20-%20London

The thing is, I just tried the link, and although it's not broken, the directory has no listings! The other directories likewise.
Filipe,

Yes. That link seems to have been wiped clean of info for some reason.

Many years,

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