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Dear Alex,
Good heavens, a married Marquis. What will they think of next?
Meanwhile, the Syriac Catholic Church (I presume you mean the Antiochian or West Syrian Catholics, formerly headed to Patriarch Ignatius Moussa Daoud - although you could possibly be referring to the Chaldean Catholic Church - not that it matters in this particular matter) does not demand celibacy of its priests (in the case of the Chaldeans, they have had married priests from time immemorial; in the case of the Antiochian or West Syrian Catholics, they theoretically imposed celibacy at the Synod of Sharfeh, but dispensations were available and while Patriarch Ignatius Moussa Daoud was their active Patriarch, he lifted the imposition).
The Syro-Malabar Church and the Syro-Malankara Church unfortunately still have the celibacy requirement at the time of writing. The Syro-Malankara Church has a fair number of married priests (who were formerly non-Chaldedonians) and one dares to hope that now that this Church has its Catholicos the restoration of the ordination of married priests will not take long. The Syro-Malabar Church may be a tougher assignment, although a recent Papal Nuntio to India was heard to comment that if the restoration of the Chaldean Liturgy in the Syro-Malabar Church is accomplished, the next move will be a demand for the restoration of married clergy. We live in hope.
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Dear Incognitus, You always come up with these amazing tidbits about the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church! What's your source? Inquiring minds want to know!  Peace, Alex (who would be VERY excited if the Syro-Malabar Church allowed the ordination of married men) Originally posted by incognitus:
The Syro-Malabar Church may be a tougher assignment, although a recent Papal Nuntio to India was heard to comment that if the restoration of the Chaldean Liturgy in the Syro-Malabar Church is accomplished, the next move will be a demand for the restoration of married clergy. We live in hope.
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: Dear Chris,
It was after a showdown involving, as I understand, the "Marquis of Queensbury's" rules . . . 
Alex Alex, If memory serves, the Ruthenian Church asserted the primacy of the new rules over the Revised London Prize Ring rules after a it of a tussle in 1867. 
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I sometimes worry in these discussions and in our eagerness to demonstrate the legitimacy of married clergy to some Latin Catholics, we run the risk of forgetting the legitimacy, beauty and example of freely chose celibacy for priests. And there should remain scope for that in our Eastern tradition, but as choice and not discipline.
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Originally posted by Ned:
I sometimes worry in these discussions and in our eagerness to demonstrate the legitimacy of married clergy to some Latin Catholics, we run the risk of forgetting the legitimacy, beauty and example of freely chose celibacy for priests. And there should remain scope for that in our Eastern tradition, but as choice and not discipline.
NW Bravo Ned! I think that puts things into proper perspective. The call to serve God is not always as married or a celibate, but how one is called to serve. In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Bravo Ned!
I think that puts things into proper perspective. The call to serve God is not always as married or a celibate, but how one is called to serve.
In IC XC,
Father Anthony+ And bravo to Fr. Anthony and Ned!!! n.b. Once again I will refer anyone interested to Fr. Maximos Davies excellent article regarding celibacy: http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0212/opinion/davies.html
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Dear Friends,
I'll withold my "bravo" until the issue of celibacy in the West is no LONGER something that is imposed.
And also when there are no longer any problems for EC priestly candidates to get ordained in the married state - if they so choose.
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Just to get your dander up with a typically Latin point of view (in next week's edition of a diocesan newspaper): http://bcc.rcav.org/06-03-06/editorial.htm Would anyone like to respond to this Monsignor's column? (I don't feel qualified.) Peace, Alex NvV
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