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Exactly what do we mean when we use the term "sui juris" to describe those Orthodox who are in communion with Rome?
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Bless, Father Stephanos,
For Orthodoxy, the only Orthodox who ever were in communion with Rome lived before 1054 AD.
And what is written on Vatican letterhead with respect to "sui iuris" is different from what is practiced.
What do you wish to talk about - the theory or the practice?
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Both and where we need to go from there.
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Originally posted by Stephanos I:
Exactly what do we mean when we use the term "sui juris" to describe those Orthodox who are in communion with Rome?
Stephanos I Latin right? what does it mean (in simple terms). A british scholar used it on me and I really had no idea what it meant. -ray
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"sui juris" = one's own law.
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This term is used particularly by the Catholic Communion to designate each of the 22 Churches within its fold, most especially in granting equal status to the Eastern Churches, in relation to the Latin Church, pursuant to Vatican II and to the respective Codes of Canons for the Latins and for the Oriental (Eastern) Churches. As viewed from 2 of the Eastern Catholic Churches, "sui juris" means: http://www.indiacatholic.com/suijuris.htm http://www.kottayamdiocese.com/sui_juris.htm Amado
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What Rome means by this is a mystery to me. I know what I *thought* it meant.
Unfortunately, I think it means whatever Rome finds it immediately expedient to mean.
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I found this to sum up what the term "Sui Juris" means in the Catholic Church.
Sui Juris! ~ latin. Able to speak for one's own self. Able to represent one's own self. Capable of managing one's own affairs.
The term does not just apply to the Eastern Catholic Churches it also applies to a number of other areas as well. Here is Australia in the far north west there was a mission territory that was also "Sui Juris" of over 30,000 sq miles. It was represented at the Espiscopal Conference by a Benedictine Abbot who also had another hat because he was an Abbot Nullius of a small area 30 x 40 miles. Both of his territories were many thousands of mile apart. Both juristictions no longer exist as the monks of New Norcia (Western Australia) voted them into the respective neigbouring diocese about 1980.
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