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Yup - I went to see it. Mels' - The Passion of Christ. Forget what the media may say about it. What do they know anyway? Sex In the City? The L Word? Midgets marrying models for one million dollars?? Brittany 15 minute marriage? If you believe the media you would believe these are good entertainment. Being a musician, I must admit I turned the Grammies off half way through. The Passion... About one third of the audience remained in their seats, silent, just staring at the screen, not moving, until the very last credit rolled and the screen went blank and the theater lights were already on. Me included. That is the measure of a powerful movie. It seemed ironic to me, after reading various sides of the �media controversy� before going to see the movie, that it seemed to me that all these people who were writing all these different opinions - were in the movie! In the crowd. At the side of the road. Lurking at the edge - shouting out their different opinions. When I got home my wife said she wanted to go see it and for me not to �give it away�. I said �Ok.. But in the end he dies�. I gave it away  -ray
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I loved the movie. I went in expecting to hate it, to be annoyed by another western attempt to precisely portray Jesus, but I was proved wrong. Mel Gibson took artistic license to make the meaning of the passion clear at many levels. I thought the way the women were shown was beautiful and inspiring, and the scenes with Mary were for me, the most moving parts of the film. I did not see any more anti-semitism than what could be found in the gospels themselves. Although too gory for children, I completely recommend for those who can handle it. My one comment is that the movie would be much better experienced with a devotional heart than a critical mind.
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Originally posted by Elizabeth:
I thought the way the women were shown was beautiful and inspiring, and the scenes with Mary were for me, the most moving parts of the film. Elizabeth, You make an excellent observation. Mary, the Mother of Jesus, Mary Magdalena, and Pilate's wife were shown in inspirational light. The flashback to Jesus' childhood brought many to tears in the audience, including men. I only thought of my son getting hurt and wanting to be there. Its parallel to the way of the cross gave a different dimension of wanting to "be there" with Jesus. A chord was definitely hit by this intentional inclusion. Originally posted by Elizabeth:
My one comment is that the movie would be much better experienced with a devotional heart than a critical mind. Once again, you hit the nail on the head. And isn't that what the fuss was/is all about? Even Mel Gibson stated that those who think they have a problem with him actually have a problem with the Gospels. It takes a Braveheart to point out the obvious sometimes. The reviews, I believe, will be mostly of opposite extremes correlated with whether one is a believer or not. Joe
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Just returned from seeing The Passion and agree with Joe & Ray, you can see Mel used some of the Dolorous Passion also.
Still mulling over the experience, especially the connection between Mary & Jesus, very drawn to it spiritually, can't explain it.
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Originally posted by Elizabeth:
My one comment is that the movie would be much better experienced with a devotional heart than a critical mind. Once again, you hit the nail on the head. And isn't that what the fuss was/is all about? Even Mel Gibson stated that those who think they have a problem with him actually have a problem with the Gospels. It takes a Braveheart to point out the obvious sometimes. The reviews, I believe, will be mostly of opposite extremes correlated with whether one is a believer or not. Joe [/QB][/QUOTE] Actually, people who have a problem with Mel Gibson have a problem with Mel Gibson. Mel is not the Gospel. As much as I was moved by the film, I don't think one's reaction to it should be a litmus test of one's devotion.
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Originally posted by Jakub:
especially the connection between Mary & Jesus, very drawn to it spiritually, can't explain it.
james Hello James... Yes - the connection. It was obvious... but I will say no more because of them that have not yet seen it. And His own determination to complete the task. It struck me - when even Simon came to know what Jesus was trying to do. OK.. zipped lips. I say, that as a movie, it is right up there with some of the best books I have read on the subject of His suffering. -ray
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Excuse me, Ray, but where is the "focus on Scripture" in your original post? I know the "Passion" is based upon the Gospels, but comments or reviews upon a movie may be better suited for the "Town Hall" forum, unless one is going to specifically comment upon Scripture relative to the movie.
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I guess I will make the Scriptural connection for the topic of this posting.
Gibson's "interpretation" supported the Biblically-based Eucharistic beliefs of Catholics.
Not only during the Last Supper scene, but also when Jesus was being formally charged. The accusers stated Jesus was polluting the minds of the people with "He is the Bread of Life", also supported Scripturally.
There we go.
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Originally posted by Deacon John Montalvo:
Excuse me, Ray, but where is the "focus on Scripture" in your original post? Right you are I am not ready to discuss the accuracy of the film while so many have not yet seen it. Right you are. -ray
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Well I havn't seen it yet, all the early shows are sold out! So I will patientely wait.
I found an article in Christianity Today very intersting, though it was written by Protestants, I think they saw in a very Catholic perspective.
One of the Scripture references they brought out were these:
Gibson presents the truth of Leviticus 17:11 in all its power: "The life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it for you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement, by reason of the life."
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And from under the tempter's robe there slithers a snake. In a moment of metaphorical violence drawn straight from Genesis 3:15, Jesus crushes the serpent's head beneath his sandaled heel. At the January pastors' screening at Willow Creek in Illinois, Gibson explained why he used this veiled female figure to portray evil. Evil "takes on the form of beauty," Gibson said. "It is almost beautiful. It is the great aper of God. But the mask is askew; there is always something wrong. Evil masquerades, but if your antennae are up, you'll detect it." The Apostle Paul hinted at this fact in 2 Corinthians where he wrote that "Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." Paul said we shouldn't be surprised then "if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness." C. S. Lewis had a similar insight, expressed in a letter to Arthur Greeves: "Evil usually contains or imitates some good, which accounts for its potency." YOu can read the article here http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/passion-passionofmel.html
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