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Dear Konstantinos,
In your last sentence, you are finally making sense. You love your Balkan Orthodox brothers and sisters, and you want to help them.
Now that the maniacal madman facade is fading, let's get down to business!
Blessings!
Alice
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Originally posted by Konstantinos:
Well Mr.Scandinavian, the Russian nation and empire simply took up the broken shards of the Orthodox church and the became the sole defender. But, the Greeks made you civilizied and converted you. If they had not done that, Russia would be a large cesspool of Mongols and Tartars. So remember where the Russians found the one, true faith. I do not understand why I am being critisized so much by my FELLOW Christians. I thought it was your duty as Christians to support your brothers/sisters. I am not coming here with a negative/evil attitude but rather with arms open. I do not see ANY of you trying to make life better for our Christians brothers/sisters in the Balkans. You are all just sitting and doing nothing. I think that is worse than coming across as a madman, and all of you should be ashamed for not lending a hand to them.
Konstantinos Hold hard, there, wee tyrant! If your definitition of seeing any of us trying to make life better for the people in the Balkans is SOLELY dependant upon electing YOU Emperor of an Empire which no longer exists (check and see what the rulers of some sovereign nations might think of you)...then, guess what...you're absolutely right. We intend to do NOTHING! Have fun, and you can be like one of the dozens of "Popes" running around "leading" the Catholic Church from their mother's basement rec. rooms... But your assumption that NO ONE on this board has done or contributed heavily to charitable work in the Balkans is way off base...and un-Christian of you. Your words "I don't see any of YOU doing anything"... Well, NO, Konstantinos, since you know none of us....you wouldn't, would you? Even if you DID know us, might one ask whether you think we would tell you what sort of money we donated to Balkan relief funds, administered through the Orthodox Church? Or through other churches? Referring to Russia as a cesspool of ANYTHING isn't going to win you friends...The true Byzantines knew better, and even the Sindarin, I suspect, if you go re-read your Tolkein, were more courteous. Go back to work at McDonald's, or to your paper route, make some money, donate it to those who can help because they are IN the Balkans, and know that which needs doing...Volunteer your summer break time at one of the Missions there run through IOCC or OCMC, do something practical and stop thinking of Empires which do not exist, and start thinking about being, as you say you are, an Orthodox Christian. Gaudior, who assures you that that is the best way to be taken seriously.
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I would like to interject something here. I like to read this forum from time to time, to learn things, and perhaps even be uplifted by the Christian kindness people show each other sometimes. But when I see people acting sarcastic and smart alek and downright rude, it makes me not want to read here anymore.
If people don't agree with something someone says, or they think that someone needs to be helped or corrected in someway, then it can be done in a way that doesn't alienate, belittle, or provoke someone to anger and hurt feelings.
Just some thoughts.
Forgive me if I've hurt or offended anyone.
Pray for me.
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Originally posted by Dunstan:
I would like to interject something here. I like to read this forum from time to time, to learn things, and perhaps even be uplifted by the Christian kindness people show each other sometimes. But when I see people acting sarcastic and smart alek and downright rude, it makes me not want to read here anymore.
If people don't agree with something someone says, or they think that someone needs to be helped or corrected in someway, then it can be done in a way that doesn't alienate, belittle, or provoke someone to anger and hurt feelings.
Just some thoughts.
Forgive me if I've hurt or offended anyone. Christ is Risen... No, Dunstan, you are correct. I apologize to Konstantinos and to the forum. Gaudior, thankful for a reminder...
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Atention Joe Thur - I don't know if the Emperor provides fudge on his golden spoon. But we live in hope. Personally I like chocolate truffles.
Attention Dunstan - this particular thread, at any rate, is obviously a light-hearted one, and it's unlikely that anyone is angry at anyone else. Unless, of course, YOU are the real Basileus and you take umbrage at our paying attention to "Imposters".
Come to think of it, the feast day of Blessed Constantine Athanatos is coming in a few weeks. We should all be planning suitable observances. I trust no one needs any advice from me on the suitable observance of this occasion.
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Gaudior:
Indeed He is Risen!
Thank you for making me feel good about the Byzantine Forum again.
Dunstan
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Come to think of it, the feast day of Blessed Constantine Athanatos is coming in a few weeks. We should all be planning suitable observances. I trust no one needs any advice from me on the suitable observance of this occasion.
Incognitus Hmm - dear Incognitus - being an all too ignorant Latin - would you care to assist my education and explain that final paragraph to me ? Anhelyna
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Anhelyna,
Constantine XI was the last Roman Emperor, who died on the walls of the Queen City at the Gate of Saint Romanus defending his realm against the Turks - with, as Sir Steven Runciman puts it, "the Empire for his winding sheet". If memory serves me correctly, 29 May (old style, of course) is kept as his "dies natalis". There is a lovely Byzantine icon of him, painted by Fotis Kontoglou, and a magnificent recording, with parts of the service for him on one side and popular threnodies for him and for the Empire on the other side - unfortunately it only seems to be available at the Benaki Museum bookshop in Athens.
There is a splendid statue of Constantine XI in the courtyard of the Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Athens, where many people gather each year to keep the feast and to acclaim him "Athanatos" - Immortal.
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!
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I'm trying to figure out if our young friend who claims descent from the Palaeologi is serious. Some of the claims and aspirations points (at least to me) to a descent from Constantine V surnamed Corpronymus. So do we have here Corpronymus the Great?
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Dear Dunstan, As these delusions of grandeur are THE most outrageous claims that I have EVER heard on the internet yet...I believe that most of us tend to think that we are being put on.  I shared this with a friend who is not of this forum, and who is very well educated in the history of Byzantium, and even he said, "come on, this kid is putting you all on"..so as he has had a little fun with us, we had a little fun with him!  Speaking for myself, and others, I am sure, there was no rudeness intended. However, if this young brother in Christ wants to get down to earth, I for one, will be most pleased to discourse with him and guide him, however, I humbly can. We LOVE you Konstantinos! On the other hand, I can bring this to the attention of the Ecumenical Patriarch and maybe he can become an honorary Archon of the Order of St. Andrew! Though I am not so sure that the Turks, if they find out about him, will be so pleased with his quest and crusade!  With love in Christ, Alice
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Originally posted by Deacon John Montalvo:
Some of the claims and aspirations points (at least to me) to a descent from Constantine V surnamed Corpronymus. So do we have here Corpronymus the Great? Copronymos? *wags finger* Naughty naughty...
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Hello friends, I have returned. This shall be one of my last statements on this closed minded forum. I do not care what any of you say whether it be through rudeness or opinions. I say give you all my opinion of the people shooting their harshness at me. None of you have any personal ambition for you or for Christendom. This type of attitude with result in our destruction. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, shall we all just stand by and do nothing? No I say. Long have we been oppressed and hurt. The Serbians and the Balkans gave up their bones as a offer so that spawning Europe could survive. It wasnt just our people that saved Christendoms destruction but, the heroic Austrians at the gates of Vienna. Without these men who fought for the glory of country and Christ, we would have NEVER colonized the Western Hemisphere. Do not lay around here in our country of the free but aim for the liberation of the land of oppression. I would go at any length to save my people, whether it be forging a New Byzantium or being slain upon the fields of Anatolia. But as again, if you would like to stay here and do nothing just merely contributing by critisizing a youthful, ambitious leader than so be it. This will be the last time I lend my hand for any type of support to this forum. God bless you all.
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Konstantinos
Christos Kai Panagia!
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Dear Konstantinos, I told my mother (who is a history buff) about your intentions, and she said to tell you that she will join your group! Hope that makes you feel just a weeeeeee bit better! Come on, lighten up Konstantinos, Me chronia kai karous, pali dika mas na einai!!! Until then, let's be the best Christians we can, doing the best we can individually with the gifts which God has graced us with, for the good of His Body, His Church. Truly affectionately in Christ, Alice
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Dear me - Konstantinos is giving up already? Anyone who wants to lay claim to a vacant throne and succeed needs an inexhaustible supply of patience. Now let's get back to those chocolates . . .
Khristos Anesti!
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Christos Anesti!
Konstantios,
Up until now I have resisted chiming in on this thread (or these threads really), largely because I wasn't sure what to say. Well, I've made up my mind:
Go for it!
Yes, your plan is ambitious. On a human level, I think that success is quite unlikely. Nevertheless, someone needs to save Europe from the evils of secularism and Islam (a lovely pair of bookends).
Godspeed,
Jason
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Have mercy on me, O God, according to Thy great mercy.
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