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Well....as a continuation from another thread....wouldn't St. Peter the Aleut be considered the first cannonized Native American Saint?

Dmitri
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You are correct. The next native American Orthodox saint will probably be Blessed Olga of Alaska.

To see Icons of her and read her story access -

http://rejoyse.com/BlsdOlgaHome.html

http://rejoyse.com/Icons.html

http://rejoyse.com/SwtKwethlk.html

OrthoMan

Dear Dmitri,

You and DA ORTOMAN are correct.

However, from the standpoint of jurisdiction, which does divide us, St Juan Diego would be the first Roman Catholic Native Saint (Kateri Tekakwitha beat him to it with her Beatification though, but she isn't, as yet, canonized).

St Peter the Aleut is the first Orthodox Native Saint, with St Jacob Netsvetov the second, since he was half Native and half Russian (nobody is perfect! )

Could someone provide us with a complete listing of all Alaskan Orthodox Saints and Candidates for Sainthood, including those ROCOR honours?

Much obliged, Orthoguys!

Alex

Just a few comments:

Most of the communist laws, including those that restricted religious freedom were suspended in 1990, as a result of the reforms.

There was a lot of persecution until the 50's, when the Catholic Church was able to work freely and got a very confortable status.

In 1992 the government legalized the existence of the Catholic Church and many other religious groups. The Catholic Church has a lot of schools, seminaries, churches (some of them built with government aid), radio stations, and a TV channel (Maria Vision).

Catholics enjoy true religious freedom.

About the Cannonization of St Juan Diego, it's a great phenomenon, devotion to Our Blessed Mother has returned. I hope this will defeat those protestantized priests and Bishops of the Catholic Church who discouraged this devotion. They are real modern iconoclasts.

[ 08-20-2002: Message edited by: Remie ]

Hi:

Perhaps this is a little late, but let me say that I am deeply moved by Gerard's words. They speak well of my people and I have to thank him for that.

They also shed some light in my difficulty in understanding when people seem too preocupied with "evil Rome". For us Mexicans, and more so during the last 23 years, Rome is a person, and that person is "dad" (Papa). Whatever comes from him must be good, or at the very least well-intentioned, which is enough for us.

Anyway, I'd like to comment about the situation of the Catholic Church in Mexico.

I think the comments on this thread are not very accurate.

A good starting point would be to to say that I once was browsing a CIA web site with information about many different countries, according to the CIA, in Mexico, if you exclude the political parties, the Catholic Church is the organization with the greatest social and political influence. Pretty impresive for an institution that at the time the CIA file was created didn't even have legal recognition.

The Public Education system will not teach religion, pretty much like in the United States.

But there is no frenzy to get rid of God from all public environments as sometimes it seems to be in the U.S. God might not be in our pledge of allegiance, but He can be found several times in the lyrics of our anthem and nobody is making a constitutional case against it.

Anyway. In Mexico we also have private schools, and although in theory the Church cannot manage those either, the very best private schools in Mexico are almost always linked to a religious order like the Jesuits, the Salesians, etc.

It is not unusual to get some sort of religious education in these private institutions, even in those that are NOT directly linked with a religious order. This religious education will almost always be Catholic, and the policy is that if anybody doesn't like it, well, the doors are wide open and the public school is just a few blocks away.

There was controversy about the president kissing the papal ring. But that had little to do with religion. Oposition politicians will use anything they have at hand to criticize the president. That's just the way they are.

Both our current president and his wife are Catholics, unfortunately both are previously-divorced persons, and their marriage cannot be blessed by the Church. That was not an impediment for both to show their respect and admiration for the Holy Father.

I hope this helps a bit.

Shalom,
Memo.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dmitri Rostovski:
[QB]Well....as a continuation from another thread....wouldn't St. Peter the Aleut be considered the first cannonized Native American Saint?

It depends how you look at it.

Canonization/glorification is not the "making" of a saint, but the official recognition of a person�s holiness.

Peter the Aleut was canonized before San Juan Diego, but San Juan Diego lived before Peter the Aleut, so San Juan Diego is the first Native American saint of the Americas.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:


Let us join together to praise God in His saints, especially St Juan Diego, the servant of Our Lady of Guadalupe, St Pedro de San Jose Betancur of Central America and the Proto-Martyrs!

Dear Alex,

As a Mexican-American, I am happy to know that you have a devotion to the saints of Mexico and Latin America, just as I have a devotion to the saints of Ukraine and eastern Europe.

I must make a correction to your post . The Blessed Martyrs of Oaxaca, who were beatified the day after the canonization of Juan Diego, are not the proto-matyrs of the Americas. That distinction belongs to the three Blessed Martyrs of Tlaxcala. A short bio of the three child martyrs can be found at: www.ewtn.com/jp99/proto.htm [ewtn.com]
These three child martyrs were beatified the same day Juan Diego was beatified in 1990.

God bless you,
griego

[ 08-20-2002: Message edited by: griego catolico ]

Here is a list of the Mexican Saints and Blesseds:

Mexican Saints:

San Juan Diego
San Felipe de Jes�s
San Jos� Mar�a de Yermo y Parres
Santa Mar�a de Jes�s Sacramentado
San Crist�bal Magallanes
San Luis Batiz Sainz
San Rodrigo Aguilar Alem�n
San Agust�n Caloca
San Rom�n Adame Rosales
San Atilano Cruz Alvarado
San Julio Alvarez Mendoza
San Mateo Correa
San Jes�s M�ndez Montoya
San Miguel de la Mora
San Sab�s Reyes Salazar
San Pedro de Jes�s Maldonado
San Jos� Mar�a Robles
San Pedro Esqueda Ram�rez
San Toribio Romo Gonz�lez
San Margarito Flores
San Jenaro S�nchez
San Jos� Isabel Flores
San Tranquilino Ubiarco
San David Galv�n Berm�dez
San David Uribe Velasco
San David Rold�n Lara
San Justino Orona Madrigal
San Salvador Lara Puente
San Manuel Morales


Mexican Blesseds:

Beato Miguel Pro
Beato Mons. Rafael Gu�zar y Valencia
Beata Vicenta Ch�vez Orozco
Beato El�as Socorro Nieves
Martyrs of Tlaxcala: Beatos Crist�bal, Antonio y Juan
Martyrs of Oaxaca: Beatos Juan Bautista Y Jacinto de los Angeles

There are still more who have been declared Venerable, and whose process of canonization has been introduced.

[ 08-20-2002: Message edited by: griego catolico ]