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John,
Most candidates that go onto ordination will be in most cases replacements for those that will be aging out. As I stated earlier, just because someone is in seminary (at least from the Orthodox Church's perspective) does not mean that they will be an automatic candidate for ordination. As I stated previously from my seminary class only half (roughly) pursued Holy Orders after graduation. Several reasons may delay or even lead towards deciding against ordination including waiting for a bride (for those that will be married), novitiate (for those that will be monastic candidates), the bride does not want to be involved with the ministry of the church, career opportunities elsewhere, or simply that they decided against ordination completely and are using their talents elsewhere in the church. I was not ordained until three years after completing seminary.
Again, unlike the western model, seminary education is not a automatic ticket to ordination in the Orthodox Church. If you check all the Orthodox seminaries and their admission materials, this is repeatedly stated. I hope this clarifies this for you.
In IC XC,
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Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Originally posted by Father Anthony:
seminary education is not a automatic ticket to ordination in the Orthodox Church. If you check all the Orthodox seminaries and their admission materials, this is repeatedly stated. I hope this clarifies this for you.
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Father Anthony+ And, adding my "two cents", this is a very sound approach. After all, the formation period in seminary is also intended for discernment of God's will for one's life. Dn. Robert
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Seminary education is also not an automatic ticket to ordination in the Catholic Church. The faculty is required to give a recommendation, but ultimately it is the Bishop who "calls to Orders".
Fr. Serge
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Originally posted by Serge Keleher:
Seminary education is also not an automatic ticket to ordination in the Catholic Church. The faculty is required to give a recommendation, but ultimately it is the Bishop who "calls to Orders".
Fr. Serge I should have added that to my comments. Perhaps Fr. Anthony was commenting on the fact that the mindset of those entering Catholic seminaries is more singularly focused on getting ordained, whereas those in most Orthodox seminaries have the attitude that they are obtaining an education for service in the Church, whether it be ordained or non-ordained service. In Christ, Dn. Robert
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Originally posted by Jessup B.C. Deacon:
[QUOTE]Perhaps Fr. Anthony was commenting on the fact that the mindset of those entering Catholic seminaries is more singularly focused on getting ordained, whereas those in most Orthodox seminaries have the attitude that they are obtaining an education for service in the Church, whether it be ordained or non-ordained service.
In Christ,
Dn. Robert Thank you Father Deacon Robert for the clarification. That was my intent. In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Originally posted by Jessup B.C. Deacon: Originally posted by Serge Keleher:
[b] Seminary education is also not an automatic ticket to ordination in the Catholic Church. The faculty is required to give a recommendation, but ultimately it is the Bishop who "calls to Orders".
Fr. Serge
In Christ,
Dn. Robert [/b]In addition, seminarians in the Catholic Church who are not considered eligible for ordination to the Priesthood are asked to leave before they can complete their studies. However, those in the Orthodox seminaries can complete their seminary studies. In fact, some seminarians graduate and then serve in the parishes as lay assistants. Some of these lay assitants may be ordained several years later. Sometimes the seminarians have not found a spouse and so they graduate with their class, and serve God as a layperson, reader, or subdeacon until such time as they can marry and then be ordained with the Bishop's approval.
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