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Don't ever stop serving baklava. I get it at the mall at the Greek fast food joint, but its not the same as when I get some at a Greek Orthodox Church festival.

The only thing better than baklava is chocolate, fudge brownie ice cream. And this is from someone who doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't do drugs, but will kill for a piece of chocolate.

Baklava rules.

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........ And this is from someone who doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't do drugs, but will kill for a piece of chocolate....

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No need to kill for Chocolate during the Great Fast - as long as it's high content Chocolate - IT"S ALLOWED biggrin biggrin

Killing people for Chocolate - hmmmmm now really , is that a sin ?

Answers to that question only from the Chocoholics Anonymous here -- Fr Anthony ? Incognitus ? , Gaudior ? and of course ByzanTN [ Charles] biggrin biggrin biggrin

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No it is not a sin if they put themselves between someone and chocolate on purpose. If they do it on purpose, they sin because they make you do it and therefore it is not your fault. biggrin

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All points are well taken here.

That said though, I am worried that the various Byzantine Churches will lose any real identity. Ethnicity shouldn't be an issue in America, though the various particular churches should retain as much as possible.

The various particular Churches have a certain mindset in which a kind of mandatory mentality has been mostly rejected. So, there is obvuously room for variance. Here, I am speaking about what lanague is used at the Liturgy. It should be an option to use Arabic and Greek for the Melkites, though not only those should be used in a predominately English speaking country.

There may be some instances when even in the US, it might be justifiable to utilize a bit of Spanish. Here though, it shouldn't be an issue of mandatory.

If a few prayers in the Divine Liturgy are said in the ethnic language, its no problem. For those who find a parish as home, they will quickly learn/understand these prayers. Even an English translation does not ensure understaing (for an English speaker).

The translation for the ethnic language should be provided. If it is not though and it only constitutues a small part of the prayers, I still do not see an problem there. I have found that many EC churches are warm and welcoming and have social time after the Divine Liturgy planned, which makes an excellent time to ask Abouna and Shamas questions. Heck, even some parishers are qucik to approach newcomers and explain everything.

This is a wonderful character of the EC churches I have had experience with, they are family.
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As noted I have seen the Liturgy done where the priest sys all his prayers in Slavonic and a few to the people. Although you really can't hear much when the priest is praying from the nave, it still does count as using Slavonic in the liturgy.

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