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Click on this link if you want to watch one of the best movies on 9/11 so far.

http://abc.go.com/movies/thepathto911/

Unfortunately, it will not work for Mac users yet...

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I agree Gordo. My husband and I were spellbound. It was an amazing movie, absolutely brilliantly cast and created.

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I'm glad you and your husband enjoyed it. It made connections between events that I had not considered...

And I never knew FBI Agent O'Neil's powerful story.

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THis guy is amazing. God protect him too!*

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008958

REMEMBERING 9/11

The Path to Hysteria
My sin was to write a screenplay accurately depicting Bill Clinton's record on terrorism.

BY CYRUS NOWRASTEH
Monday, September 18, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

I am neither an activist, politician or partisan, nor an ideologue of any stripe. What I am is a writer who takes his job very seriously, as do most of my colleagues: Also, one who recently took on the most distressing and important story it will ever fall to me to tell. I considered it a privilege when asked to write the script for "The Path to 9/11." I felt duty-bound from the outset to focus on a single goal--to represent our recent pre-9/11 history as the evidence revealed it to be. The American people deserve to know that history: They have paid for it in blood. Like all Americans, I wish it were not so. I wish there were no terrorists. I wish there had been no 9/11. I wish we could squabble among ourselves in assured security. But wishes avail nothing.

My Iranian parents fled tyranny and oppression. I know and appreciate deeply the sanctuary America has offered. Only in this country could a person such as I have had the life, liberty and opportunity that I have had. No one needs to remind me of this--I know it every single day. I know, too, as does everyone involved in the production, that we kept uppermost in our minds the need for due diligence in the delivery of this history. Fact-checkers and lawyers scrutinized every detail, every line, every scene. There were hundreds of pages of annotations. We were informed by multiple advisers and interviews with people involved in the events--and books, including in a most important way the 9/11 Commission Report.

It would have been good to be able to report due diligence on the part of those who judged the film, the ones who held forth on it before watching a moment of it. Instead, in the rush to judgment, and the effort to portray the series as the work of a right-wing zealot, much was made of my "friendship" with Rush Limbaugh (a connection limited to two social encounters), but nothing of any acquaintance with well-known names on the other side of the political spectrum. No reference to Abby Mann, for instance, with whom I worked on "10,000 Black Men Named George" (whose hero is an African-American communist) or Oliver Stone, producer of "The Day Reagan Was Shot," a film I wrote and directed. Clearly, those enraged that a film would criticize the Clinton administration's antiterrorism policies--though critical of its successor as well--were willing to embrace only one scenario: The writer was a conservative hatchetman.

In July a reporter asked if I had ever been ethnically profiled. I happily replied, "No." I can no longer say that. The L.A. Times, for one, characterized me by race, religion, ethnicity, country-of-origin and political leanings--wrongly on four of five counts. To them I was an Iranian-American politically conservative Muslim. It is perhaps irrelevant in our brave new world of journalism that I was born in Boulder, Colo. I am not a Muslim or practitioner of any religion, nor am I a political conservative. What am I? I am, most devoutly, an American. I asked the reporter if this kind of labeling was a new policy for the paper.

He had no response.

The hysteria engendered by the series found more than one target. In addition to the death threats and hate mail directed at me, and my grotesque portrayal as a maddened right-winger, there developed an impassioned search for incriminating evidence on everyone else connected to the film. And in director David Cunningham, the searchers found paydirt! His father had founded a Christian youth outreach mission. The whiff of the younger Mr. Cunningham's possible connection to this enterprise was enough to set the hounds of suspicion baying. A religious mission! A New York Times reporter wrote, without irony or explanation, that an issue that raised questions about the director was his involvement in his father's outreach work. In the era of McCarthyism, the merest hint of a connection to communism sufficed to inspire dark accusations, the certainty that the accused was part of a malign conspiracy. Today, apparently, you can get something of that effect by charging a connection with a Christian mission.

"The Path to 9/11" was intended to remind us of the common enemy we face. Like the 9/11 Report itself, it is meant to enable us to better defend ourselves from a future attack. Past is prologue, and 9/11 is merely another step in an escalating Islamic fundamentalist reign of terror. By dramatizing the step-by-step increase in attacks on America--all of which, in fact, occurred--we are better able to see the pattern and anticipate the future. That was the point of the series, its only intention. Call it the canary in the coal mine. Call it John O'Neill in the FBI.

Despite intense political pressure to pull the film right up until airtime, Disney/ABC stood tall and refused to give in. For this--for not buckling to threats from Democratic senators threatening to revoke ABC station licenses--Disney CEO Rober Iger and ABC executives deserve every commendation. Hence the 28 million viewers over two nights, and the ratings victory Monday night (little reported by the media), are gratifying indeed.

"The Path to 9/11" was set in the time before the event, and in a world in which no party had the political will to act. The principals did not know then what we know now. It is also indisputable that Bill Clinton entered office a month before the first attack on the World Trade Center. Eight years then went by, replete with terrorist assaults on Americans and American interests overseas. George W. Bush was in office eight months before 9/11. Those who actually watched the entire miniseries know that he was given no special treatment.

It's good to have come to something approaching the end of this saga, whose lessons are worth remembering. It gave us, for one thing, a heartening glimpse (these things don't come along every day) of corporate backbone in the face of phenomenal pressure--and an infinitely more chilling one testifying to the power and reach of politically driven hysteria. A ripe subject for a miniseries, if ever there was one.

Mr. Nowrasteh wrote the screenplay for "The Path to 9/11."
*As I am not a pacifist, you will appreciate the fact that someone gave me a Crucifix one time that had the words "God Protect!" on the back. I thought this was strange, and then tried to figure out the symbolism of the cross as a sign of warfare against the evil one and victory over sin and death.

Then I looked at the protruding piece of metal on the side and pulled it out.

It was a pocketknife! God protect indeed!

I still have it. biggrin

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Just watched the first half. It was almost three hours of straight footage. No commercials. With the new video player ABC used, no buffering and streaming. It played as if I were watching it in the movie theater.

Absolutely amazing that they put it online, in its totality, no commercials anywhere to be seen. Someone at ABC is under one heck of a lot of pressure right now to make such a strong political statement. May God grant whomever it is the strength and courage to stand his ground.

I have not seen any partisan politics, despite my looking for them. It plays as if you were there. The only agenda I've detected is to document and supply information about Al Qaeda in an attempt to bring their organization to an end.

Well, that, and I wonder if the ABC reporter was displayed a little nicer and more cooperative than he is in real life. smile

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I am sorry to say that the "movie" the path to 9/11 was written by a total political hack whose main concern was to cover the rearend of this administration. I will post more with proof if neccesary

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I don't agree with you, John.

Al Qaeda was killing Americans long before Dubya occupied the White House.

Clinton was desperate trying to convince Arafat to sign a peace treaty with Israel and his hacks didn't want to do much of anything about Al Qaeda.

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This is from a non clinton fan and a non democrat

"The network initially trumpeted the program in full-page ads as "based on the 9/11 Commission Report." But it explicitly contradicts the findings of almost every part of that report, in order to cast blame on the Clinton Administration--inventing scenes, characters and dialogue along the way. To take just one of many examples, as Editor & Publisher reported, the film "explores the terrorist threat starting with the 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center, and there is little question that President Clinton is dealt with severely, almost mockingly, with the Lewinsky scandal closely tied to his failure to cripple al-Qaeda." The commission concluded exactly the opposite. Clinton instructed his staff to ignore his domestic troubles and, as the report explains, "All his aides testified to us that they based their advice solely on national security considerations. We have found no reason to question their statements."

Former National Security Council senior director for counterterrorism Roger Cressey has added in a Washington Times op-ed that Clinton "approved every request made of him by the CIA and the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and al Qaeda." Recall that most Republicans and many in the media were themselves obsessed with the President's P**** at the time and accused Clinton of playing "wag the dog" with every attempt to take action against Al Qaeda. "

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I left this movie with more of the impression that it was the bureacracy (and the Clinton-era "wall" between the CIA and FBI) that created most of the issues.

If anyone was slammed it was Sandy Burglar...I mean "Berger". George Tenet did not fair so well either, neither did Condi. Richard Clarke was clearly one of the heroes.

As to the "wag the dog" accusation with the bombing of the Aspirin Factory, I thought that myth was thoroughly debunked, if the scenario with Albright was correct and accurate. Even though the reporter at the riot makes reference to it, the impression you get from behind the scenes was that President Clinton wanted to get UBL, while avoiding inadvertently starting a war between the nations of India and Pakistan. If it is true, Albright asserts that the timing of the information was based on the recommendation of a General - again, not Clinton's or Albright's fault and not a "wag the dog".

It seemed to me that if any case was made it was that the laws in place gave every advantage to the terrorists, as did the political aspirations and the cowardice of the bureaucrats. It was a case of "the field" vs. the "home office" if ever I have seen it.

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Dear Gordo,

I believe Pres. Clinton did want a war to further his legacy. The problem was that the war he decided to declare, was more in tune to what other nations wanted. He went to war and sided with the Albanian Muslim terrorists against the Serbs in Kosovo. If I recall correctly, he bombed
Serbia on Eastern Sunday. Thank you President Clinton and Madeline Allbright. I think it was all the pussyfooting around the Muslims as to not offend them, and to show them how much we love them and so on and so forth. So much for that!

Probably Turkey was involved in that bit of propaganda after all she does want her empire to extend from China to the Adriatic�and that would include a united Albania and Kosovo. Wasn�t Turkey then allied with Israel? confused

As for the CIA and George Tenet, I really won�t blame them for what happened at 911, as they were poorly funded. They did not have the men in the field to know what was going on. All in all, Pres. Clinton would usually place his finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing. He did what was politically correct at the time�.at least as concerns the Europeans, Muslims and the liberals. :rolleyes:

The truth is though, would this nation have accepted going to war before 911? I don�t think so! So in that sense Pres. Clinton is not really to blame�unless of course, the propaganda on CNN was to start in the same way it started for the war in Kosovo. Maybe had we watched the damage done to us morning, noon and night on CNN, as we watched those poor Albanian Kosovans, this nation might have reacted differently.

I recall that once in a while you would get a glimpse of someone in the background in Kosovo with a turban. According to the newspapers in Greece, they were the one�s from Iran or who knows where, that were blocking the exits of Kosovo so the Albanians couldn�t leave. mad

Zenovia


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