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A prank gone awry??? (blame the pages) What next, "the tooth fairy made me do it" Puhleeeze.

I doubt seriously that the pages can be blamed...but who knows for sure? I doubt that we will know the whole story for a long long time. What matters the most is that one miscreant is down. Good. Now what about the others, whoever they are?

CDL

Here is more that I have extracted from the Drudge website. Based on the article, it appears that all of this scandal, while having basis in truth, is being revealed at an electorally propitious time for the minority party, and there are indications that the Clintons and good old George Soros are springing another "October Suprise".


Many conspirators seen behind Foley scandal


Oct 5, 4:37 PM (ET)

By David Alexander

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Ask some Republicans what is behind the scandal that forced a congressman from their party to resign for sending dirty e-mails to underage boys and they'll give you a list of the usual suspects.

They have fingered Democrats, accused associates of former President Bill Clinton, named liberal billionaire George Soros and questioned the role of the media.

And they've wondered about the motives of the anonymous individuals who gave the e-mails to reporters and the mysterious self-described "nobody" who first published them on the Internet at a Web site called StopSexPredators.

Speaker Dennis Hastert, the top Republican in the House of Representatives who is struggling to keep his job in the face of fury over the scandal, accepted responsibility on Thursday but not before pointing the finger elsewhere.

"The people who want to see this thing blow up are ABC News and a lot of Democratic operatives, people funded by George Soros," Hastert told the Chicago Tribune.

Operatives associated with Clinton knew about the allegations and may have been behind the disclosure of the e-mails so close to the November congressional elections, Hastert added, offering no evidence.

"All I know is what I hear and what I see," he said.

The scandal broke last week when ABC News revealed Republican Rep. Mark Foley of Florida had sent lewd e-mails to underage male congressional assistants. Hastert came under fire for failing to investigate Foley's behavior aggressively when concerns initially surfaced.

Republican Majority Leader John Boehner noted some of the e-mails had been given to the St. Petersburg Times newspaper in Florida, which decided not to publish them. He wondered about the public release of the documents so close to the elections.

"The timing of their release is concerning, at a minimum," he said in a letter.

"Did ABC's source delay release of Foley's messages to maximize their political impact?" he asked, calling for the former congressman to be held accountable along with anyone else "who may have suppressed proof of his crimes."

Meanwhile, the mysterious blogger who first posted some of the e-mails at StopSexPredators.blogspot.com fended off queries about his identity.

"I am not Karl Rove, Mark Foley, or John Boehner," he wrote at the site, referring to the presidential aide, the disgraced congressman and the House majority leader.

"I am not employed in Democratic politics. I am not 'funded' by George Soros," the blogger said. "I'm nobody that anybody should care about. So, please, go about your day as if I don't exist."

as far as Foley is concerned: my stepfather was a drunk, but he wasn't a perv.
Eric is right when he mentions the differnce between a child and a teen, but there is still the issue of being an authority figure.even if the pages were adults, the issue still stands.
what I get a kick out of are the purported E mails that have Foley asking one page if he finds Foley attractive and if there is a chance for you know what? oh, puhleeze looweeze! even if the kid was as gay as a goose, he could get someone his own age, and not some fat drunken middle aged man.
I'm still voting Republican for U.S. Senate, Congress and Governor this year, so the Foley scandal has no effect on my vote. scuzballs exist in ALL political parties, religions, professions, races, ad inifitum, but they are many good decent noble women and men to be found in them as well.
Much Love,
Jonn

Being from Pennsylvania, we have a certain Governor that I would love to see thrown out of office.

The Foley "scandal" actually will affect my vote. It makes me more determined to be an anti-Democrat.

If Barney Frank can continue to be reelected after his lover ran a prostiution ring from Frank's townhouse, then I say pull the log from your own eye before pointing out the splinter in someone else's eye.

I ignore ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN.

ABC did a hit piece on the Food Lion grocery store chain years ago. Food Lion sued but ABC prevailed in court. ABC planted an undercover reporter as a Food Lion employee who made the meatcutting department filthy after closing hours and then filmed the place as if Food Lion meant it to be that way.

No more ABC News for me.

CBS had the fake memos from Mary Mapes and Dan Rather.

No more CBS News for me.

MBC did a hit piece on GM trucks, palnting incendiary devices on a Chevy pickup to make it look like they exploded in certain accidents.

No more NBC News for me.

CNN admitted to covering up Husseins's proclivity for torture and letting his dictatorship approve news reports so they could keep the Baghdad news desk.

No more CNN News for me.

The New York Times? Walter Duranty. Enough said for that fishwrapper.

The Democrat Party? Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton are more than reason enough to get permanently nauseated at that bunch.

well, you have a certain Senator who is about to be thrown out of office

You are paying too much attention to the liberal press. Santorum is wildly popular in the state outside of the socilaist bastions of Philly and Pittsburgh, and will readily win reelection. If I remember correctly, the liberal media predicted Comrades Gore and Kerry would win also. I am also enclosing an article penned by Senator Santorum, who is a Catholic, by the way, which you might find interesting, despite you left leaning views.

http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=30

Fishers of Men

By the Honorable Senator Rick Santorum

Like most American Catholics, I have followed the recent sex scandals in the Church with profound sympathy for victims, revulsion over priests who prey on minors and frustration at the absence of hierarchical leadership. Unlike most, I have been visited by the gift of hope; for I see in this fall an opportunity for ecclesial rebirth and a new evangelization of America. This "new evangelization," advocated strenuously by Pope John Paul II, has the potential for restoring confidence in the priesthood while empowering all American Catholics.

The most obvious change must occur within American seminaries, many of which demonstrate the same brand of cultural liberalism plaguing our secular universities. My hope was rekindled last week as our American Cardinals proposed from Rome an "apostolic visitation" of seminaries emphasizing "the need for fidelity to the Church's teaching, especially in the area of morality." It is an arduous task. However, the Pope made it clear last week that he expects the strong appeal of the Cardinals to be followed by decisive Episcopal action.

It is startling that those in the media and academia appear most disturbed by this aberrant behavior, since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning "private" moral matters such as alternative lifestyles. Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.

The cultural change needed cannot end with our seminaries. Most of the American Cardinals, while strong defenders of the faith , are from a different era with only a few responding to the new demands our decaying culture has place upon them. With God's grace, a new hierarchy must emerge that will be both faithful in thought and courageous in confronting all infidelity within the Church. Such Church leaders have a great example in Pope John Paul II's battle with communism's attempt to destroy the Church and human dignity. A new hierarchy must similarly fight against an array of "isms"-moral relativism, cultural liberalism-inside and outside of the Church.

Most importantly, I hope this crisis in the clergy will remind the laity of the call of Vatican II, a call the Pope has re-echoed throughout his incredible papacy. This is not just the hierarchy's church; it belongs to all the baptized. Pope John Paul II reminds us time and again of Luke's Gospel: "Put out into deep water and lower your nets for a catch." We are all called to be "fishers of men." Both clergy and laity have mutually supportive and indispensable roles in the "new evangelization" through administration of the sacraments and proclamation of the Gospel and all Church teachings.

Even now we witness this "new evangelization" through many ecclesial lay movements such as Opus Dei, the Neocatechumenate, Focolare, Regnum Christi, Communion and Liberation. The laity across America is also demanding faithful Catholic schools and colleges. The key to success, as the Pope stated in his 1999 exhortation, The Church in America, is to be "formed in the truths and values of the Church's social teaching and in the basic notions of a theology of the laity." A renewed, united effort of clergy and laity will transform the Church. That this does not already occur belies the greatest systemic failure of the Church in America where so many cradle Catholics have left the Church or go "unchurched" because of exposure to uninspired, watered down versions of our faith by those with deficient seminary training. In light of recent events, the laity must guide them back.

We as the Church, the people of God, cannot and should not leave the mission of the Church to the clergy alone, nor should our role be limited to overseeing priestly training and conduct. The laity must assist the whole Church in America reclaim our nominally Catholic colleges, schools, hospitals and social welfare agencies for the sake of our souls. The Pope reminds us that Catholic educational institutions make possible "a wide-ranging evangelizing effort as long as there is a clear will to impart truly Christian education. Many Catholic social service agencies, while serving the human needs, have been co-opted by a secular culture. The Pope calls them also to "faithfully reflect the attitude of Jesus who came to proclaim good news to the poor."

As a Catholic U.S. Senator, I am proud to see the Church, often alone, take one courageous stand after another on the great moral issues of the day: abortion, cloning, third world debt relief, AIDS and the breakdown of the family to name a few. The Catholic Church remains true to the teachings of Jesus Christ and the dictates of the natural law. Through 2000 years, the Church, built upon rock, has survived every arrow sinful man has shot at her from within and without. Another arrow has been loosed from within, piercing the Body of Christ. The time is now for the laity to come to her aid. We must heed the call of Christ through his Vicar on earth: Climb into Peter's boat and go into the deep!

Alexandr

maybe you are paying too much attention to the right-leaning press Have you seen the Senatorial polls lately for the WHOLE of Pennsylvania?? But I guess the polls and voter's views are a product of the liberal media too. This just gets crazy and divorced from reality.

Sadly, I think Santorum will lose. Casey has done nothing but run negative attacks against him and it has worked. Instead of a Senator who is consistently pro-life, we wil have a lackey of Chuck Schumer.

Florida looks better and better to me all the time.
So does Texas.

You think Texas and Florida are Republican? Why settle for them? Come to Georgia where people are REALLY freaking stupid! :p

Logos Teen

Missouri has all three beat!!! :p :p :p

Especially "The Bootheel" which is 90% Republican.

By the way, Sheryl Crow is on TV trying to get Amendment 2 passed which would allow embryonic stem cell research to begin in this State. We banned "gay marriage," I hope this will not pass.

A Senator who is consistantly pro-life owuld oppose abortion, the death penalty, euthanasia, nuclear weapons and definately not vote to slash programs to help the poorest. That is true Pro-Life

Isn't it a shame that it is almost impossible to find a politician who encompasses the totality of the message of Christ? When it comes down to it, most of us voters must prioritize our lists and choose someone who embodies those points we consider to be of the most importance. That we must prioritize lives, however, is a testament to our 2-party system's faults.

I'm too numb to be revolted anymore. I live in a nation being led by a President high on anti depressants (drugs). They fire anyone who tells anything negative or reports negative. They are living in a delusional dream world.
Now if a priest were caught sending questionable emails to altar boys...

Isn't it a shame that it is almost impossible to find a politician who encompasses the totality of the message of Christ? When it comes down to it, most of us voters must prioritize our lists and choose someone who embodies those points we consider to be of the most importance. That we must prioritize lives, however, is a testament to our 2-party system's faults. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Amen, Wondering!!!!!!!!! We can all agree on that