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Thanks Dr. Eric this is great.
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Dr. Eric,
Thank you. For some reason the left panel is missing. There is only the schmatic drawing in the center. Is there more than one depiction on that site?
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Dr. Eric, Thank you for posting this !
Dan, Click on the green dots on the schematic drawing on the right panel. That should chnage the picture on the left panel.
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John,
All that is in the left panel is a brown blank square with one little red x in the corner. I'm probably missing something in my computer. I really am limited in my understanding of this technology.
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Dear Dr. Eric, Thanks for providing this link, however, I must say that it does not do justice to the magnificent space which is the ancient Haghia Sophia church. I was only 14 years old when my mother and I visited Istanbul and I saw Haghia Sophia, yet it is visually etched into my mind as if it were yesterday. I will also never forget the anger and the grief which I felt at seeing those large medallions with Arabic writing hanging from the ceilings.  This space is hard to describe as its architecture is mind boggling not only for an ancient structure but also for one in contemporary times. It would be a miracle if it were ever restored to its glory and if a Divine Liturgy were ever said there again, but we should never lose faith, for all things are possible with God. In Christ, Alice
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KHRISTOS ANESTI! Originally posted by Alice:
I was only 14 years old when my mother and I visited Istanbul and I saw Haghia Sophia, yet it is visually etched into my mind as if it were yesterday. I will also never forget the anger and the grief which I felt at seeing those large medallions with Arabic writing hanging from the ceilings.
Dear Alice, I protest! It's Constantinople, and Constantinople it shall ever remain!  My own anger and grief were assuaged when I walked up to the altar area and sang the Kontakion of the Akathistos Hymn at the top of my voice Ed
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Originally posted by carson daniel lauffer:
John,
All that is in the left panel is a brown blank square with one little red x in the corner. I'm probably missing something in my computer. I really am limited in my understanding of this technology.
CDL Dan, Yes, that does sound like you are missing the right program (or the latest version of it). Ask a tech friend to take a look at your computer and that webpage and to install / download whatever is needed. -- John
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Originally posted by Edward Yong: KHRISTOS ANESTI!
Originally posted by Alice: [b] I was only 14 years old when my mother and I visited Istanbul and I saw Haghia Sophia, yet it is visually etched into my mind as if it were yesterday. I will also never forget the anger and the grief which I felt at seeing those large medallions with Arabic writing hanging from the ceilings.
I protest! It's Constantinople, and Constantinople it shall ever remain!
My own anger and grief were assuaged when I walked up to the altar area and sang the Kontakion of the Akathistos Hymn at the top of my voice
Ed [/b]Dear Ed, Alithos Anesti! Istanbul means: Is tin poli: In the city. What city? Constantine's City, why ofcourse!  (Otherwise I wouldn't use it at all) Bye and bye through the years and ages, the city will once again be ours! (for those who don't know what this is, it is a folk saying handed down through centuries of generations of Orthodox children in Greece) In Christ, Alice P.S. I am sure that the Turks just loved your chanting of our Lady's Akathist at the place of the altar!  Good for you! 
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Do we know what the altar area looked like in the Great Church when the city fell to the Turks. Are there detailed descriptions of the floor plan anywhere.
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Originally posted by Alice: Istanbul means:
Is tin poli: In the city.
What city?
Constantine's City, why ofcourse!
(Otherwise I wouldn't use it at all)
Ναι! Βεβαιως οιδα! I was just being cheeky Though I propose we all adopt Byzantine usage and simply refer to it as 'The City' - 'η Πολις'. [b]Bye and bye through the years and ages, the city will once again be ours! (for those who don't know what this is, it is a folk saying handed down through centuries of generations of Orthodox children in Greece)[/b] You mean: πάλι με χρόνους με καιρούς πάλι δικά μας θα 'ναι! 29 May is coming... anyone want to sing Σημαινει ο Θεος, σημαινει η γης, σημαινουν τα επουρανια? [b]P.S. I am sure that the Turks just loved your chanting of our Lady's Akathist at the place of the altar!
Good for you! Heh heh. I couldn't resist, to be honest. I actually first sang the Troparion to the Holy Cross, then the Glory in Tone 8, then the Akathist Kontakion. In Greek, of course! Fortunately for me, they had no idea what it was. I told them I was testing out the acoustics... (yeah, to see if the holy angels would join in the singing!)...
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I wonder if there is a realtionship with the word 'Istana' which tends to translate as Palace in English, is not linked to the Turkish word Istanbul and through them to the Greek for the city. I mean it terms of the centre of government rather than just a building as the term palace ahs to it. The term seem to be used across the Muslim states of Raj-India and the various malay states.
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I have a secret wish in my heart that Constantinople will be freed in the near future. And that the Akathistos Ymnos will be sang again in the "tis tou Theou Sofias" church. And that everything that the Turks has stolen through the ages will be returned.
Istanbul indeed as a word comes from the phrase "is tin polin". The Turks when they entered Constantinople in 1453, through all the slaughter that followed they asked one Greek where they were because they didn't even now the name of the city that they conquered. The Greek responded "Is Tin Polin" (at the City). Constantinople was usually called as the "Polis".
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