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Dear Friends,

Here are the emblems of my province:

http://www.gov.on.ca/mbs/english/about/emblems_symbols/emblems.html

The Cross of St George, as it is called, which is the Cross of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, is prominently featured together with three maples leaves signifying the Holy Trinity.

The Red ensign is the royal banner with the crest in the fly and what Canadians call the "Royal Union Banner" (Union Jack) in the upper left hand corner.

The motto is "Loyal she began, loyal she remains."

Our flower is the Trillium which also has Christian symbolism for which it was chosen.

What do y'all think? (I'm using the Southern drawl here since we too are a "Confederacy.")

And when you scroll down, you will see the Ontario tartan - I worked on that.

Alex

Dear Alex,

It all seems quite wonderful. Down here the Los Angeles seal was recently changed to remove a cross, due to fear of lawsuits.

I especially like the "Common Loon". I understand your money is named after it.

Down here in the Beltway Zone, our politicians are similarly regarded.

This being a Christian Forum, discussion of moral values is appropriate.

Please be careful of associating yourselves with The Confederacy

--- the place of "3/5 of a person", who had "no rights a white man is required to respect" (another of our famous court decisions - Dred Scott), were bought and sold at auction, and taxed as "livestock" ---

not a good model of moral conduct toward those who were "the least of my people".

Canada is a land of many things, but thankfully, free of association with chattel slavery.

Indeed, the destination of the "underground railroad".

Holy Martyrs of North America, pray for us!

John
Pilgrim and Odd Duck

Alex,

Very nice Tartan. Has it been recorded in the Lyon Records of The Court of the Lord Lyon King of Arms [lyon-court.com] or with the Scottish Tartans Authority [tartansauthority.com] ?

Many years,

Neil, suspecting he has now given Alex a new mission or two to undertake

Dear Neil,

When I left that department, they were indeed going to do that.

However, because we have had no less than 8 provincial tartans since 1894, some cloth-cutters were complaining that their designs were being canned illegally.

I do believe, from a Member that I've just spoken to, that this district tartan has indeed been registered as you've said.

The only two jurisdictions here that do not have an official tartan are Quebec (and they don't care about it) and Canada.

Both of these have unofficial tartans - the Canadian one is called the "peanut tartan" owing to all the brown in it . . .

Alex

Two Lungs wrote:
Slavery in Canada was abolished a generation or so earlier than in the US. There was slavery in Canada prior to that time. The founders of one of Canada's great corporate empires of today were slave owners.

Canadian History texts seldom refer to that part of our past.

For one account of slavery in Canada see this [bccns.com] .

Antrodox

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Two Lungs:
I especially like the "Common Loon". I understand your money is named after it.

Yes. we replaced our dollar bill with a coin with the reverse side having a Loon in water on it, and the obverse having Her Majesty the Queen. This coin is commonly called a "loonie"
We've also replaced our two dollar bill with a coin... called a "tooney"

Sometime I feel we've got more loonie's in circulation up here than we should.

And other times I feel we're all just a bunch of loonie toons.

Brad

Dear Brad,

You know the loonie that has the picture of Parliament on it?

I understand that one is called a "loonie bin!"

Alex

Dear Friends,

While we're on this subject, here is the site for the Monarchist League of Canada:

http://www.monarchist.ca

Alex

Alex,

A rather clever, if a bit garish, representation [globalseek.net] of all the Canadian tartans, official and unofficial (as in adopted by the appropriate legislative body, I presume). Not sure how up-to-date the text is, but it does indicate which have been registered in Scotland at the Court of the Lord Lyon.

Many years,

Neil, who is starting to wonder how this thread started, but is happy for something light for a change

Dear Neil,

Yes, that is the official, but outdated, listing of provincial tartans in Canada - the one listed as the "Ontario tartan" has been now formally replaced by the one I had the privilege of working on.

In 1965, the then Premier of Ontario approved the tartan depicted on the site you give - but it was never codified formally in law.

The ministry of culture informed me that there are 8 unofficial Ontario tartans, none of which had the backing of law.

This is why we worked on the one shown on the updated, official Ontario site - it is a tartan developed by the Celtic Studies Department of the University of Guelph and unites a portion of the tartan of our first premier, Sandford Macdonald, and then a more district tartan reflecting Ontario's natural environment.

I contacted the Member who promoted this tartan and he informs me that it has been registered in Scotland as he made the application himself and sent it off.

That is what he told me, I didn't do the letter nor have I contacted the authorities to determine if this has in fact been done.

For us, the most important thing is that this tartan is now enshrined in law and it is the official district tartan of Ontario.

Thanks to me . . .

Alex