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#16930 06/21/03 11:03 AM
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Eternal memory, eternal memory, blessed repose and eternal memory. Vichnaja pamjat', vichnaja pamjat', blazhennyj pokoj vichnaja jemu pamjat'!

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MEMORY ETERNAL, Father John!

We have a recently-retired archpriest in the New England Diocese of the OCA who dresses in the same type of monsignorial attire as Fr. John. Seems he came originally to the OCA from the ACROD, so that was the explanation given. One time at my former parish Fr. Joseph showed up in the Altar dressed in his monsignorial cassock for an Hierarchical Liturgy and a shocked young priest was about to eject him when the rector stopped him saying: "HE'S ONE OF OURS!"

Father John, you are one of ours! Vjechnaja pamjat!

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Msgr. Yurcisin was a wonderful man.

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Eternal Memory!

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May his memory be eternal!

#16936 06/21/03 05:41 PM
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So svatimi u pokoj!

Vicnaja jemu pamjat!

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#16937 06/21/03 09:20 PM
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Yes, Msgr. Yurcisin was indeed a wonderful man and a truly dedicated priest. His death represents also, the passing away of a particular generation and genre of "Orthodox Greek Catholic" priest that was once common in the Johnstown Diocese. These dedicated clergy truly were committed to preserving the particular Carpatho-Rusyn/Ruthenian recension and customs upon which the Diocese was founded, without any confusion or mixture of the practices of other traditions. They were also untiring pastoral men.

Few of the "founding fathers" of the Diocese remain and although Msgr. John was not one of the original clergy that elected Bishop Orestes, he was among the first classes to be ordained after the erection of the Diocese. Living contemporaries of his are few, and include the Protopresbyters, Msgr. Stephen Dutko of Binghamton, NY and Msgr. Stephen Sedor of Perth Amboy, NJ. They are all certainly part of the diocesan history books. All three of these men have always been nothing but kind and fatherly ministers, hard working and dedicated to their flocks, as observed from my experiences with them.

It is well known that Msgr. Yurcisin and his beloved Pani were particularly close. It is no surprise that his repose follows so soon upon her passing, a short time ago.

May God grant to his arch-priestly servant, +Msgr. John Yurcisin, blessed repose and eternal memory. Vichnaja jemu pamjat'.

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Blessed Repose and Eternal Memory!

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. . . These dedicated clergy truly were committed to preserving the particular Carpatho-Rusyn/Ruthenian recension and customs upon which the Diocese was founded, . . .
. . . although Msgr. John was not one of the original clergy that elected Bishop Orestes, he was among the first classes to be ordained after the erection of the Diocese. . .
Several posters have used the title "Msgr. Yurcisin". This seems confusing. I thought that this was a Latin title granted by the Pope, not appropriate for the Eastern Churches.

If Father Yurcisin was not ordained until after the founding of the ACROD, was he given the title of Monsignor by an Orthodox Metropolitan or Patriarch? Or was he simply called "Monsignor" by his parisioners?

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Someone wrote that "Several posters have used the title "Msgr. Yurcisin". This seems confusing. I thought that this was a Latin title granted by the Pope, not appropriate for the Eastern Churches." This is not strictly accurate. The Pope grants various distinctions to which the honorific "Monsignor" is - in some languages - attached. English and Italian are much more likely to use the term "Monsignor" than German or French would do. Anyway, in English and other languages having "Monsignor" in common use, one often finds Orthodox clergy holding similar distinctions accepting the application of this honorific to themselves. In the specific instance of the Carpatho-Russian Orthodox diocese, the use of the honorific "Monsignor" has declined in recent years, but some older priests continue to accept it less formally. Incognitus

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Many of the clergy of the ACROGC Diocese were honored under Metropolitan Orestes (Chornock) with the title of "Monsignor", and a few such surviving / active clergy continue to use this title today, although it no longer appears in the Diocese's official organs, the Church Messenger newspaper and the ACRY Annual.

Through Divine Providence, I was privileged to be able to attend the first part of the funeral services for Protopresbyter/Monsignor John this past evening in Johnstown. It's truly the end of an era but I felt a special blessing that I was able to bid farewell in person to an exemplary priest, a wonderful human being, a true Rusyn patriot, and a good friend.

Blaz~ennyj pokoj, vic~naja jemu pamjat'!

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Thank you for your replies. I was just surprised by the usage of "Monsignor" in an Orthodox Church.

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Vichnaya Pamiat, Svyaschennomu Iyereyivi!

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