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Amen, Karen! Now we just need to pray that God preserves our parish.
Yes, we do!

Oh, did you notice this part of the original post?:

"They have raised eyebrows among more orthodox leaders in the archdiocese. But the pastor and parishioners say they are carving the model for the future American Catholic Church."

If this is an example of the "future American [Roman] Catholic Church", they can have it.

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Oh MY Goodness! I know this priest. When he was a relatively new priest he was at the church I attended when I lived in IL. I remember what a bombastic speaker he was and I thought it was great that he could stimulate the parrishioners the way he did. Had I know that he would get this bombastic I would have prayed harder for him. I get frightened and sad when I see the way the RC church is going. I know in my heart and in my brain that GOD will win out - but along the way I think a lot of people are going to get lost. We are children of GOD and the church leadership is suppposed to lead and guide us as children. This is not leadership this is a capitulation to those who think it's too hard to be Catholic. Do you remember when people came the the Catholic CHurch services to bask in the beauty and holiness of the church and the service???

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Oh MY Goodness! I know this priest. When he was a relatively new priest he was at the church I attended when I lived in IL. I remember what a bombastic speaker he was and I thought it was great that he could stimulate the parrishioners the way he did. Had I know that he would get this bombastic I would have prayed harder for him. I get frightened and sad when I see the way the RC church is going. I know in my heart and in my brain that GOD will win out - but along the way I think a lot of people are going to get lost. We are children of GOD and the church leadership is suppposed to lead and guide us as children. This is not leadership this is a capitulation to those who think it's too hard to be Catholic. Do you remember when people came the the Catholic CHurch services to bask in the beauty and holiness of the church and the service???
Dear Sue,

Christ is risen!

I know what you mean. I get the impression that Fr. is probably wonderfully personable and is sincerely trying to bring people to Christ. But as you said, we can't compromise the true Faith, and in my humble opinion, that's what he's doing.

I don't know where the western Church is going either Sue... we can only pray.

I seem to remember reading an article, and I don't remember where (here, perhaps?) that talks about the trend of Catholic "mega-churches." They are coming about, according to the article, mainly due to lack of priests.

But as Carole pointed out earlier, how can a single priest truly minister to a parish of 5,000 people? We need to pray for vocations, keeping in mind that fidelity to the orthodox Faith fosters them.

God bless,

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We are children of GOD and the church leadership is suppposed to lead and guide us as children. This is not leadership this is a capitulation to those who think it's too hard to be Catholic. Do you remember when people came the the Catholic CHurch services to bask in the beauty and holiness of the church and the service???
I think you have hit on the problem. There has been a crisis in church leadership for nearly 50 years, that I know of. Certainly, there have been the occasional bishops who have been exceptions to the rule. Of course, I am grateful for them. However, I used to wonder why God no longer raises up numerous saints to lead his church. But then it occurred to me that maybe God is giving us the leaders we deserve.

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Christ is Risen!

What is an Evangelical Church in the Roman Catholic Tradition?

I was travelling and attended Mass at a RC parish. I wasn't sure if I was in church or at a show.

It seems strange that this goes on while lots of folks are looking for the church to return to more conservative and traditional ways.

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So what happens when this priest falls under a bus? I would imagine that it will all fall in a heap if it is all built up around one man. It must also be very hard work constantly dreaming up novelties to keep the congregation occupied. Just like the Churches they seem to have modeled themsleves on they will reach a point where they run out of steam, because that is what seems to happen to the Evangelicals. It does seem like a loss of confidence in the Church and themselves. However, we must keep on and not allow ourselves to be destracted by what they are doing, as when are are called to account it will be about us and not them.

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Sam,

I post in support of much of what you wrote and I'm sorry I did not post sooner. The reason people are aghast at what John Gibson alerted us to is the wreckovation that this RC Church has done to the liturgy, and architecture. Though you didn't address that you probably are greatly troubled by that as well.

What you did address was the backward and insular approach many BCs have toward God and His Church. With those observations I heartily agree. I do not believe that it is necessary to do what Holy Family has done in order to reach people with the Gospel. I also agree with you that instead of becoming inspired to be the best that God has made us to be we complain and criticize.

Knowing John Gibson as I do I don't believe he posted this article so people would sit around and complain about others but would rather become inspired to be the best BC parish the world has ever seen so that the promise would come true that Jesus gave to all of us "If I be lifte up I will draw all men unto me."

Of course I agree that Holy Family has compromised with the world far too much. They have so denuded the message that one wonders how much is left. Of course in the affluent Northern and NW Suburbs sheek is what they seek. Of course the compromises weren't necessary to reach people and of course many of the compromises will probably prove to be counterproductive.

But what we have apparently in many of our BC parishes are priests too fearful and some even... (well let God be the judge) to even lead the Church in revival.

I find the observation that some old fart in a dying parish would complain about a family sitting in a pew. That old fart needs to see what real Christianity is. That one needs revival and a wise pastor and a wise congregation know how to help that person receive it.

I find the pew filled rather than people filled parishes to be an offense to God. Imagine what God thinks of that.

I find that a people who won't invite their neighbors to Church to be already dead. God must be even more agrieved and it's His opinion that counts.

I find that priests who are afraid to ask the people to stand up and set the pews aside, as most piests have refused to do, an act of cowardice that will doom their parishes.

Up the anty. Have more hours for confession. Make the penances serious ones if they are not now. Bring the liturgy back to its fullest expression. Retire or move priests to chaplancies who won't challenge their people to greatness. Renew minor orders. Train people how to begin missions on their own and then when they do assign them worker priests. Establish sister Churches as Whiting and Annunciation have done.

I know, much of this will fall on deaf ears. But the words are Gospel even if I am only a poor sinner. If we ignore them you will die. But those who hear them will live and thrive.

I think I understand Sam's intentions and I fully support them.

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How about on a more positive nte (BTW: Holy family has long been seen as a blight on most of the Archdioscese, and I cannot believe that the very orthodox Cardinal George holds them in less than abhorrence. He is likely taking the wiser road though, in rather than creating a disturbance and scandal, he is gong to let, what is frankly a very desperate parish, die out over time. I highly doubt Holy family has another 15 years in it. Here is a good example, how many Seminarians does Holy Family Have? John Cantius has 12 in their newly-formed society. I highly doubt Holy Family has any.
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St. John Cantius [cantius.org]

A Renaissance in Chicago


St. John Cantius Church Becomes a Center for Reverent Masses and Catholic Family Life By JOHN BURGER


St. John Cantius Church

Converts are known for their enthusiasm. Eager to share their newfound Catholic faith with others, many take extra doctrine classes and become better apologists than cradle Catholics. Those who come in contact with them often see anew the things they might have taken for granted. The faith and traditions that converts are coming to know for the first time can shine through them like light through a prism.


The stories of two converts mirror the story of the Chicago church they attend, a church that almost met the wrecking ball only a dozen or so years ago but is now the center of a vibrant Latin Mass community.



What attracted Amos Miller and Amy Lightfoot to the faith are much the same things that revived and rejuvenated the parish of St. John Cantius: a yearning for unchanging truths and values, a grounding in tradition and a reverence for God expressed through the most beautiful music, art and liturgies man has fashioned.


The fundamentalist, evangelical religion Amy Lightfoot grew up with was "an austere faith," said the 38-year-old former nurse. "I equate it to starving yourself to death," she said. "It doesn't have the Real Presence of Jesus Christ. It doesn't have the forgiveness of sins through an institution established by Christ Himself."


The Washington State native started reading up on Catholicism in late 1999, as hints of something called the "Jubilee Year" squeaked through the din of Millennium madness. Already familiar with Catholic culture and thought from friends' weddings and news about the pope and Chicago's archbishops, Miss Lightfoot also knew there was controversy over contraception, factions in the Church and a tendency in some places to focus on "issues of the day" rather than the eternal verities.


"From this point is forgiveness for the humble, and retribution for the proud." Inscription at entrance to the church.

Looking for orthodox doctrine, she figured she could find traditional thought and practice in a church where the Latin Mass was offered. After some persistence on her part, the Office of Divine Worship of the Archdiocese of Chicago "reluctantly" told her about St. John Cantius, she said. "As a fundamentalist, I'd been told of all the horrors of the Catholic Church, the rituals and all. But when I walked into St. John Cantius, I felt I'd come home," said Miss Lightfoot, a sales representative for GlaxoWellcome. "I'd been a Catholic all this time but didn't know it."


What she found at St. John's is what attracts many people from Chicago and its environs--and even from neighboring Indiana and Wisconsin: in her words, "an undiluted statement of values and culture which doesn't change." She found that the Tridentine Mass, an "unvarying liturgy" with beautiful prayers, regal vestments and other traditional elements, "focuses you."


"It's more reverent, humble and asking of forgiveness," she commented. "There's nobody dancing in the aisle or anything to distract you."



St. John Cantius offers a high and low Mass in the Tridentine rite each Sunday, as well as the Novus Ordo Missae in Latin and English.


Like Miss Lightfoot, Amos Miller was baptized at St. John's Church in June 2000. Both attended the adult education classes taught on Sunday mornings by Father Burns Seeley, S.S.J.C., himself a convert and thefirst priest member of a new religious community formed at the church, the Society of St. John Cantius.


Never let it be thought that all Catholic churches are cold, foreboding places, their members unwelcoming to strangers. There's one in the Windy City which is not. And part of the credit goes to Miller, who grew up in a Scottish Presbyterian family that watched Fulton Sheen on television in the 1950s, when he was a youngster. After giving an in-depth tour of the church to a visiting journalist, he was looking forward to spending a leisurely Saturday lunch with his wife, Janet. A couple came into the large Renaissance-Baroque church in Chicago's River West section and Miller, an usher, welcomed them with the same graciousness with which he greets everyone. "Would you like a tour?" he asked the couple.

They did.


Many such visitors stand in awe at the 203-foot long edifice. With seating for 2,000 visitors, the church is larger than Chicago's Holy Name Cathedral. But in contrast to the nearly stripped-bare cathedral, one's attention at St. John's is immediately focused on the sanctuary, adorned for a King. And the King in His tabernacle reigns from the center of the high altar.


High above, the risen Christ looks out from the apse. When Miller first entered the church about three ago--when his wife wanted to attend a Latin Mass after visiting Italy--he said he felt "an overwhelming presence." When the chanting started in the choir loft, he said, "I couldn't raise my head." The experience had a profound impact on him, and he was drawn back again by what he called a "magnetic pull on my soul."




Kevin Haney, an usher, welcomes visitors next to a bronze statue of St. Peter. The church proudly displays St. Peter in his chair, a sign of the parish's obedience to the magisterium.

A world traveler, Miller had been to a "panoply of houses of worship" and considered himself a freethinker who believed in "one great God, a universal Holy Ghost." He had recited the creed before, but when he professed his faith in a "Catholic Church," it was a lower-case catholic. He began to realize there had been elements missing in his beliefs. A keen observer--he is a private investigator by profession--he listened to homilies and asked questions and, for the first time, realized that the Catholic Church is "the complete Body of Christ."


Miller, 54, speaks in grateful tones of Father C. Frank Phillips, C.R., who, more than being the pastor of St. John Cantius, is a father to his parish family, giving them solid guidance and direction. And to those who are starving to death on "an austere faith" and those who are seeking "the whole Body of Christ," Father Phillips has provided generously.


"He uses this incredible treasury (of Church teaching, tradition and culture) and has opened it up and said, 'Take all you want from this. Everything that is the Church is here for you,' " Miller said.


St. John Cantius itself had been starving. Father Phillips was assigned pastor more or less in order to close it down. The neighborhood was shot, and the church's two Sunday Masses attracted at most 40 persons. Forty or fifty years of deferred maintenance left the physical plant in shambles. Fifteen radiators were missing, and the heating system was held together with duct tape. A rose window was bowed out from tons of pigeon droppings that had accumulated during the Depression, when the priests raised the birds for food.


Brother Joseph reviews a point with fellow altar boys before Mass.

"I had no idea how bad it was," Father Phillips said. Fresh from teaching music and religion at Chicago's Weber High School, he felt called to get into parish work, and St. John Cantius was open. "The former pastor was walking out of the provincial's office while I was walking in, and he asked me if I'd like St. John Cantius," he recalled.


Built by Polish immigrants in 1893, the church had a glorious past. At its peak just before the First World War, some 23,000 parishioners each Sunday entered its portals, passing the cornerstone which read, "Awesome is this place: it is the House of God and the Gate of Heaven." The school was brimming with over 2,000 youngsters, taught by 30 School Sisters of Notre Dame.


A superhighway cutting through a once solid Polish neighborhood and the flight of families to the suburbs hammered away at the parishioner base. The school closed in 1967, and the neighborhood became crime-ridden. Sunday collections yielded $50 while annual heating bills soared to $42,000.


Arriving on the feast of the Assumption in 1988 Father Phillips seized on the opportunity to make St. John Cantius a viable parish again by focusing on the central action of the Church, the Mass. It would be celebrated with reverence, care and strict attention to the rubrics laid down by the Church. There would be no improvising.


"In the seminary, I had the good fortune to be trained by Msgr. Martin Hellriegel, the first promoter of the liturgical reform," Father Phillips said. Msgr. Hellriegel, who wrote the hymn, "To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King," instilled in the young seminarian at St. Louis University an appreciation for precision and orderliness in the liturgy.


Father Phillips was intent on restoring a sense of the sacred to the liturgical practices. In January, 1989, he introduced the Latin Novus Ordo on Sundays, to be accompanied by traditional music that was written to glorify God and lift the heart and soul Heavenward. Soon the parish began offering the Tridentine Mass as well.




Fr. Frank Phillips C.R. celebrates Mass.

Word got out, and Catholics who sought refuge from the liturgical abuses in their home parishes flocked to St. John's. So did the parents of home-schoolers, who were having run-ins with the archdiocesan religious education office. In order for their children to receive the sacraments, they had to agree to things like letting their high school-age youngsters attend coed overnight retreats.


Ironically, the archdiocesan Office of Religious Education now rents space in the old parish convent.


The Coalition in Support of Ecclesia Dei, which has lobbied bishops in the United States to grant permission for more Tridentine Masses, was born in the midst of the rebirth of St. John Cantius. Mary Kraychy, executive director of the coalition--and a parishioner of St. John's--said she and other devotees of the Tridentine Mass were hoping the U.S. bishops would have a plan to implement the 1988 papal directive. They were disappointed when Fathers James Downey, O.S.B., and Dudley Day, O.S.A., then director and associate director respectively of the Institute on Religious Life, came back from the November 1988 bishops meeting reporting that the bishops had no plan.


Some of the coalition's earliest meetings were held in the basement of St. John's, which, with the heating system the way it was, was "cold as hell," Will Hegner, a parishioner, recalled.


"We had to figure out how to make missals for people and how to spread the word," added his wife, Audrey.


And, on Dec. 8, 1992, a large group of Catholics who worshiped with the schismatic Society of St. Pius X at their Oak Park mission left over a dispute about the running of the mission and began attending the Tridentine Mass at St. John's. Many have stayed.


Father Phillips keeps handy a copy of "The Church's Year of Grace" by the Augustinian Pius Parsch. Using the ideas in this guide to the year's liturgies based on the Tridentine Mass "brings the liturgical life to the people by constant explanation and repetition of traditions," Father Phillips said.


In keeping with his vision of restoring the sacred to the Church, Father Phillips revived devotions such as Vespers and Benediction on Sunday, the Corpus Christi procession, Stations of the Cross, Tenebrae, First Friday and Saturday adoration, blessing of flowers on the Assumption and novenas before Christmas and Pentecost.




Fr. Burns Seeley, S.S.J.C., distributes Communion

Mild-mannered and blessed with a sense of humor, Father Phillips nonetheless is a leader who uses his authority for the good of souls. "A Catholic parish exists to make saints," he states plainly. He insists that a parish be known for the way it celebrates Mass and for its sacramental life.


"You can get the sacraments here at any time," said Will Hegner, a retired engineer. On a recent Sunday morning, there were three confessionals operating, all with long lines outside them.


It is in the family that Father Phillips sees the need to begin restoring the sacred in society and the Church. Toward that end he challenges parishioners to "achieve a greater degree of holiness in their daily life." He admonishes them to "connect the altar in church with the altar at home."


"A lot of people today don't say family prayers," he continues. "For many it's because they have no regular place or time to do so. So I advise that they have a special shrine set up for that purpose. And wherebetter to put it than the living room? If there's a sacred presence in your house, you'll be less likely to watch questionable material on television."


He and Father Seeley instruct couples preparing for marriage, after a solemnization of engagement ritual in which the man and woman promise to live chastely during the time of their betrothal and continue praying to discern their vocation to the married life. The couples, many of whom met at St. John's, also pray the Novena to the Holy Spirit before their wedding day. There are roughly 20 nuptial Masses a year.


Dory Grass, right, greets Audrey and Will Hegner outside the parish bookstore.

As of a couple of years ago, Baptisms have outnumbered funerals. In the darkest days, there was only one child in the parish; now there are scores. Religious education is of prime importance. Many of the children are home-schooled.


Sally Mordente, who with her husband Joseph, adopted little Gabriel last year, looks forward to raising him in the parish. "I see parents and children at Mass here, and they don't have Cheerios or books or anything else to entertain them," Mrs. Mordente said. "They're trained at home...At churches in the suburbs, children have no understanding why they're there. It's just one more social event where they can eat and talk and play."


Dorothy Amorella, director of religious education, explains that she and her husband, Jim, do indeed begin the training at home. Over the years, their nine children have been "taught to love and respect things that deserve love and respect," Mrs. Amorella said. "My kids know that lunch in our house is a little looser than dinner," for example.


In church, the "focus is all forward," and the absence of any din of talking removes distractions. Father Phillips encourages parents to take children outside when they become rambunctious--"out of respect for other parents and the child himself," Mrs. Amorella explained.


It's a way parents support each other, added Joan Dziak, who home-schools her five children. "For kids to see everybody sitting in church behaving well is a good outward sign. They learn that other people do this," she said.


Sunday Morning after Mass, many gather to socialize in Cafe San Giovanni downstairs.

To teach children to love the Mass, Mrs. Amorella advises parents to "make it as stress-free" for them as possible, but it is important they get the feeling that church is different from any other place. "It smells different, unless you burn incense at home, which we don't," she said. "Everybody's respectful and quiet, and children learn that they don't get away with talking out loud or running around." There should be no toys, but parents should "be creative to help children get through the hour."


At St. John's, "there's enough around them to look at," she said. "And the music helps too." Most Sundays, the Schola Cantorum of St. Gregory the Great renders the propers and ordinaries of the Mass in chant. Once a month, the Resurrection Choir sings settings of the Mass in the Viennese Classical tradtion. Both had been founded by Father Phillips at Weber High School and continue under his direction. On greater feast days, the St. Cecilia Choir sings Mass settings from the Renaissance polyphonic tradition.


Parents like Joan and Dick Dziak find it easy to bring their children to Mass. "We always have to sit up front--at the kids' request," Mrs. Dziak said. "It's such a beautiful Mass, with a lot going on...We've never had to pull teeth to go."


In fact, if one of the children is sick and the family has to attend their local church, the children protest. When they get there, they ask their mother, "Why don't the people dress right?"


While speaking to this writer by telephone, Mrs. Dziak had to yield momentarily to her daughter, Anne, 7, who wanted to explain how she thinks "all the pictures and saints are so pretty." She has a particular affection for the stained-glass window of St. Bernadette because of the way the sun shines through it on Sunday mornings. And, she added, "I like Father Phillips' sermon and the choir."


Andrew Bierer, 13, checks out a book in the parish library.

She already knows how to sing the Gregorian parts of the Mass because of a chant class Father Phillips gave for families recently.


In the parish religious education program, Mrs. Amorella says that the most important thing she wants to teach is belief in the Real Presence. She also aims to develop a sense of obedience to God out of love rather than out of obligation. She uses the Baltimore Catechism and the Faith and Life series and extra material "that looks like St. John's."


There are 25 children preparing for First Holy Communion. Part of the instuction takes place in church, where children are taught that "the whole focus is toward the altar." St. John's is, in her view, "the largest, most excellent audio-visual you could take a child through." It is brimming with statues, paintings and symbolism. Pupils are shown the baptismal font and asked, "Why is there a wooden carving of Jesus being baptized by John on top of this font?"


Children have to be able to recite basic prayers before Mrs. Amorella and know the commandments. Those preparing for First Confession are given a tour of the confessional and then a script to take with them, providing security for what could be a frightening experience.


Using a Mass kit, teachers explain all the elements of the Mass "so they know there's a plan that has to be followed," Mrs. Amorella said. "As with the Four Marks of the Church, if all those elements are not there, it might not be Catholic," she warns them. Father Phillips takes students to the altar, explains the altar stone and the vestments.




Fr. Burns Seeley, S.S.J.C., gives docrine class for adults Sunday morning.

Pupils become familiar and comfortable with the Novus Ordo because it is the norm, "the Mass the pope says," Mrs. Amorella explained. They are taught how the Mass is supposed to be celebrated so that if they see it performed otherwise they can go elsewhere. Mrs. Amorella teaches that reception on the tongue is the most humble way to receive the Lord and that kneeling while doing so is "the best form of adoration."


Youngsters are, of course, not the only part of the family that is important at St. John's. Adult education classes have been held at the nearby Institute on Religious Life, with the late Father John Hardon, S.J., teaching canon law and the catechism. Father Phillips wanted his parishioners familiar with the documents of the Second Vatican Council so they could conduct intelligent arguments about Church teaching and practice.


Father Phillips, who keeps his hair close-cropped and wears a soutaine with the black cords of a Resurrectionist Father, greets a visitor in a front office of the parish house. The furniture around him, as throughout the rectory and sacristy, makes one feel he is in, say, 16th-century France. A brass statue of a saint from a later era, the Cure of Ars, looks humbly over the proceedings from a pedestal by the wall. "I bought that in an antique shop," the pastor says. "He was being used as a door stop."


St. John Vianney might not object to such lowly service, but one senses in Father Phillips' tone frustration that so much has been relegated to society's dustbins, attics and closets that should be given more prominence and respect.


Relics on display in chapel. Altogether the church owns about 2,000.

Even churches have swept away many of their treasures. Father Phillips has salvaged antique vestments being discarded, for example. Happily, many objects rescued from churches slated for destruction or bought at flea markets are now in use at St. John's--or stored in its modest museum upstairs near the choir loft, waiting to be used in a parish perhaps one day run by the Society of St. John Cantius.


The restoration of the church building has included cleaning, repair work and re-gilding of the two side altars, one of which has an icon of Our Lady of Czesctahowa.


The church also employs artists to direct their work to the glory of God and ponders a workshop to teach the liturgical arts. A couple of summers ago, after a heat wave buckled the church's vinyl floor, Father Phillips commissioned parishioner Jed Gibbons, 43, to design and execute a wooden floor containing symbols of Chist's life, death and resurrection. And, to celebrate the Jubilee Year, in which he dedicated the parish to Mary, Father Phillips asked parishioners to donate old gold, silver and precious stones for a "Millenial Monstrance," again, designed by Gibbons, and fashioned in Spain.


"Everything that used to adorn the body now adorns Our Lord," Father Phillips states. The 87-pound, 38-inch high monstrance, which has a detachable segment to be used during Benediction, incorporates rich symbolism. At the base are deer, like those in the Psalm "longing for running streams." One drinks from a fountain flowing from a chalice; the other looks up longingly to the Blessed Sacrament, which is adorned by 72 diamonds, representing the 72 disciples sent out by Christ and, by extension the people of St. John Cantius parish. Supporting this, and reminding one of the parish's dependence on the Magesterium, is a representation of Bernini's baldachino in St. Peter's Basilica, connected to the ornate pulpit of St. John's. The pulpit's four Evangelists remind one of the New Evangelization called for by Pope John Paul II. Above is a gold Eucharistic crown of thorns with 33 rubies, one for each of the Lord's earthly life.




Fr. Phillips rehearses with the parish choir preparing a Mozart Mass for Christmas Eve.

Father Phillips likes to boast that the Society of St. John Cantius is the first religious community founded in Chicago in the Third Millennium. Over the years, about 100 men from the parish have become priests and 200 women have become sisters. In recent years a number of men expressed an interest in the priesthood. "Their bent is a little too traditional for many orders, so we started the Society of St. John Cantius," he said.


One was Stephen Menes, a parishioner since 1992, who left the Congregation of the Resurrection as a novice when the Resurrectionists wanted him to study at the Aquinas Institute in St. Louis, which he said "taught all the latest heresies and psychobabble."


Cardinal George has been supportive of the new community and gave it his approval as a public association of the faithful, the first stage in becoming a religious order. That was on Dec. 23, 1999, the feast of St. John Cantius, a 15th-century Polish philosopher who embraced the spirituality of St. Augustine. It also was, as Menes points out, the day before Pope John Paul opened the Holy Doors of St. Peter's Basilica, initiating the 2,000th anniversary of the Birth of Christ. "So the Society of St. John Cantius is the first order of the Third Millennium in Chicago," said Menes, 36, who is joining the group.


The cardinal recommended that the members be formed as Canons Regular following the Rule of St. Augustine. There is emphasis on community prayer and apostolic work--in that order. "Even in religious communities, the basic elements of communal life are gone today," Father Phillips said. "The apostolic life has taken precedence over the community life, but the community life and prayer should support the apostolate."


The apostolate of the Society of St. John Cantius, not surprisingly, is the restoration of the sacred. Father Phillips tells aspirants that he needs priests willing to be good confessors and be obedient to liturgical norms. They will celebrate the Tridentine Mass, but not exclusively. In fact, in addition to being trained to celebrate the Novus Ordo, the men might also be able to celebrate the Divine Liturgy in order to respond to needs of the Byzantine Catholic Church.


Fr. James Downey, O.S.B.

This spring, the community had four men studying theology at Holy Apostles Seminary in Cromwell, Conn., and one at Magdalen College in New Hampshire. Priests from various dioceses have expressed interest in joining.


At St. John's, novices receive formation instruction from Father Seeley and Father Thomas Nelson, O.Praem, director of the Institute on Religious Life. Those in formation include Brothers Joseph Pietrzyk, formerly a corporate lawyer; Daniel Ahearn, who is mechanically inclined and put together the church's new carrillon system, and Daniel Wagner, who grew up on a farm in Wisconsin with 17 brothers and sisters.


"He knows about community life," Father Phillips quipped.


"I'm very impressed with their spirit of charity and zeal for the liturgy," commented Father Downey, 80, whom Father Phillips invited to live at the parish.


Other priests who sometimes visit the parish and celebrate Mass there include Chicago Auxiliary Bishop Joseph Perry, Father Day and Father George Rutler. Noted speakers in a conference series have included Francis Cardinal Arinze, Msgr. Richard Schuler, Alice von Hildebrand, Donna Steichen and Sister Margherita Marchione.


Fr. Phillips practices Polish Christmas carols on the rectory piano.

The restoration of the sacred at St. John's has been accompanied by--perhaps helped spur--a restoration of the area. Where once it was chancy to walk around after dark, luxury apartments are being built, bringing back a small geographical parish community. Still, St. John's has become a center for the Latin Mass and traditional Catholic life, and though only a four-minute subway ride from the downtown Loop, many people drive from up to two hours away. They come for Mass and stay for classes in doctrine, Latin and Greek, sodalities, browsing in Seat of Wisdom Library or simply socializing in a cafe downstairs .


Most importantly, perhaps, the parish has come back to life and is giving life to all who ask: cradle Catholics, converts and those returning to the fold, such as the lapsi for whom the St. Monica Sodality prays its weekly Novena. The attention to the liturgy and rubrics, whether it is in the Tridentine Mass or Novus Ordo, is not a question of "going back to some distant day of nostalgia," said Mary Kraychy. Rather, recovery of the sacred--in the faith, the traditions and the arts--represents the future of the Church, the thing that will hold it together as the "AmChurch" continues to splinter.


"What's been done at St. John Cantius will be exemplary to other parishes," she said.


FOR MORE INFORMATION St. John Cantius Church 825 N. Carpenter St. Chicago, IL 60622 (312) 243-7373 www.cantius.org [cantius.org] The St. Monica Sodality will pray for lapsed Catholics anywhere Send intention to above address or stmonicasodality@yahoo.com

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My observations

1: The Stations of the Cross are perhaps the ugliest ever made in the history of the Latin church. They look not so much crafted as hurled onto the wall, with the impact randomly forming some shapes that, like clouds, may be taken for something vaguely similar to the events in question.
2: The pictures from teh teen event were simply stupid. Apparently, all the teens do at these events is drink some sort of liquid and cavort in the usual manner of teens, which is to say, not very prayerfully. They could have at least had ONE picture of ONE teen praying, but alas, I'm afraid talking about Jesus, the cross, and sacrifice would be too much of a buzzkill. "Dude! Can't you see I'm trying to get my game on with this girl here? Take your five wounds and go break someone else's mack." (I do not merely say this by way of sarcasm. As a teen myself I attended evangelical teen meetings, and noticed that the primary focus of the activity had little to do with any divine precepts, except perhaps tangentially and incidentally "be fruitful and mutiply" (which is hard enough in the age of murder pills and love shields), this observation helped to make me an functional atheist for several years thereafter.)
Quick question for HFP members, since 1988, how many of your young people have become priests or religous?
(sound of crickets chirping)

3. Finally HFP claims 12,000 members, but honestly, how many of these actually attend mass every sunday? How many during the week? And how many children does the average family have? I doubt the answers to any of these will be terribly promising for HFP as a model for the future "AmChurch".

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No one likes suffering. Even God tried to avoid it. But a Christian embraces it to be better.

HF doesn't seem to be much of a Christian Church.

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Brothers and Sisters:

Hate to stir you up further, but the pictures I've seen from this church are not too unusual compared to some I've been in. When my godson received his First Holy Communion some six years ago we went to a church outside Toledo, OH, that was comparable. Our Lord was in a small room (marked "chapel") near the front of the building--locked before Liturgy so no one could go in; lights out, too, as seen through a small glass window in the door. The altar was not central--as in this picture--and it seemed to have a Lutheran feel: the Word and Sacrament emphasis is "equal." And the parishioners bowed to the ambo, not the altar when they passed in front of the church.

Blame the church architects who worked on the basis of a now-discredited document "Environment and Art in Catholic Worship."

Keep praying that the Faith does not die in the environments we are creating for our children and grandchildren.

In Christ Who is Risen from the Dead,

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It is so much more than the issues of having pews or not.
It starts with people living a life that is more than Sunday church that "better be good."
I believe one of the Deacons here once explained how he is raising his children. It was a motivational response that I will never forget. That is what we need to do, keep our children involved, take church home with us.
Church is not just about going to Mass/Liturgy once a week. You must always "be in church" in spirit, praying and living the life of the Gospels.
The issue that comes to mind is the scripture that says "we can not be saved by faith alone." Rather the epistle tells us that we have to carry out the work of loving each other, helping our brethren when they need help (note, 5 dollars in the extra collection doesn't trully count) and essentially living the Gospels.
This is what Christianity is about.
In fact in Jesus' time there were no social safety nets, life insurance, health insurance and help with food/clothing/shelter.
Even Roman citizens received no help when their husbands died. Most folks that weren't Roman citizens were servants/slaves that didn't receive any kind of help from anyone.
The early Christians banded together under Christ's teachings and formed communities that were tight knit, took care of each other.. basically lived what we read about in the New Testament. This meant if a husband died helping a woman raise her children, not just for the first few months but really an ongoing help. This meant if there were troubles with food, sharing food as a community. A much more involved level than we usually experience in our culture. We must rememeber it was this very sense of community that is Christianity. I think it is easy to loose sight of that today because we can pratically walk to the store at 3 am and get a hot meal for three dollars. But we must not forget that we are called to trully give heavy sacrifices of ourselves for our neighours, our communities, to be indidivuals working together as one.

I think we have seen a tendency in our country to forget this and that for some reason Worship is all self centered. Showing up for liturgical services and saying that you love Jesus is somehow enough. Well, we must remember just because the vast majority of us seem to live good doesn't mean others don't. We have to take care of the brethren. If we don't we haven't fulfilled our duties as a Christian.
Going to a fancy feel good church and being able to praise God isn't only part of the equation.
Let's start teaching the full version of Christianity. It can be hard, but it is what we are called to do.
If we do look at many of the evangelical churches we see one thing, self-centered worship.
Of course people will flock to that. It is easy. At the same time many of these parishes provide many "self-help" groups. So not only can you praise Jesus but you can get help for your "problems" are at the same time.
What about looking outward, away from just our needs and putting others first? What about being a community that loves each other and helps at all levels?
What about teaching our children to pray and praying with them? Allowing them to be a part of the community as a whole, a community that works together as one and isn't fragmented into sub-communities that never mesh together?
Just my two cents anyway.
But I hear alot of folks say we need more people in church. And I just had a few thoughts.

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It seems to me it would be more productive if these 'churches' were not perceived as complete churches. By 'complete', I mean that they shouldn't offer the sacraments, especially the Eucharist since they seem to discount traditional worship in their surroundings. They are though helping many in their spiritual growth by leading them up to a complete church, and that by all accounts is good.

Since the participants within these churches are more or less starting their spiritual journey and are on a lower spiritual growth level, they should really be considered 'movements' within the Catholic Church.

As movements within the 'Church', they could have someone ministering to them that is not a full priest, and also encouraging them to partake of the sacraments whenever they want by attending a 'real' Mass, by a real priest.

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"Since Brennan's arrival a decade ago, the flock has grown, and weekly collections have risen from $18,000 to more than $40,000"

Chump change compared to the collections at Cantius biggrin

For Catholic Laity, a Spirit of Change
Expanding Roles Will Test New Pope's Vow to Promote Greater Inclusiveness

By Peter Slevin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 1, 2005; Page A03

INVERNESS, Ill. -- The leadership of Holy Family Catholic Community gathered the other night to discuss parish business. Seventy-five men and women, none of them ordained, shared readings from Isaiah and John. A Latin hymn rose from a baritone in the back row, and everyone joined in.

All the while, a mild-looking auburn-haired man in a blue blazer and an open-necked shirt leaned against a table to the side, watching and saying nothing until they began discussing management issues. He was the parish pastor, the Rev. Pat Brennan, who works closely with lay members of his congregation and describes his primary role as "the bearer of the vision."



"Bishops and cardinals have to listen more to the people," says the Rev. Pat Brennan, pastor of Holy Family Catholic Community in Inverness, Ill. (Photos By Jill Sagers-wijango For The Washington Post)

The influence and activism of the laity is becoming a defining feature of the U.S. Catholic Church, with parishes such as Holy Family drawing creatively from church canons as they tread carefully among the dictates of Rome. Despite last month's election of a pope loyal to tradition, Brennan and many other Catholics believe the church must continue to innovate, not least through the laity, if it is to overcome a perilous shortage of priests and thrive.

"If the church wants to survive, it will change. If we have a death wish, it will stay with its blinders on and people will vote with their feet," said Brennan, 58. "Bishops and cardinals have to listen more to the people, for the Holy Spirit is operating there, as well."

The U.S. church is hardly monolithic, but the top-down leadership of Pope John Paul II caused a significant number of members to bridle and turn away. Although he encouraged lay involvement, the pope saw limits. He took strong positions on doctrine and passed them from the higher echelons of the church to the lower, often acting through his close friend and intellectual soul mate, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger.

With the election of Ratzinger as Pope Benedict XVI, Brennan and others are wary. They are watching to see how Benedict carries out the suggestion in his first homily that he will honor the inclusive, pastoral lessons of the Second Vatican Council, which provided the inspiration and the doctrinal basis for many of the current innovations.

Whatever Benedict may decree, many U.S. Catholics say they intend to continue their experiments in church leadership. They believe the growing influence of lay people means greater openness in parish finances, healthier debate and more influential roles for women. Many say the sexual abuse scandal would have been less extensive if lay leaders had been privy to the treatment of abusive priests and their frequent transfer from parish to parish by knowing bishops.

Such thinking marks a real change for the church. Not so long ago -- and in many parishes still -- priests exercised complete control over parish finances and conducted much of the parish's business themselves. Now, with fewer priests, lay Catholics are assuming many roles traditionally saved for the clergy. At a time of widespread disappointment with Vatican orthodoxy, dioceses and parishes are anxious to solve problems and reach people.

"In America, you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who's opposed in principle to the laity participating in strictly church-related matters. The church allows laity to do all sorts of things that used to be proper to clerics," said Michael Sirilla, theology professor at Franciscan University of Steubenville, in Ohio.

Canon law grants considerable latitude to allow "the religious imagination of the local church" to meet its needs, said Dolores R. Leckey, senior fellow at Georgetown University's Woodstock Theological Center. "It's not like there's a prohibition. It's that there's a culture that weighs you down."

At Holy Family, a vibrant church in Chicago's northwestern suburbs, Brennan has established eight divisions, each with a lay director and council. The parish of 3,800 is also divided into 20 "mini-parishes" with a lay overseer, and 160 neighborhood ministries. The church employs a chief operating officer, and financial affairs are overseen by lay people.

Since Brennan's arrival a decade ago, the flock has grown, and weekly collections have risen from $18,000 to more than $40,000
"We stress the priesthood of the faithful. I make very few unilateral decisions," said Brennan, who considers his ministry an evangelical Catholic church. Some in his congregation say he is like a collegial CEO.

That pleases Linda Thomas, a neighborhood ministry leader within Holy Family. "He listens to people. So many other churches are hierarchical and kind of out of touch with the times," Thomas said. "I don't want to just follow how it was in the old days, when you didn't ask anything or question anything."



"Bishops and cardinals have to listen more to the people," says the Rev. Pat Brennan, pastor of Holy Family Catholic Community in Inverness, Ill. (Photos By Jill Sagers-wijango For The Washington Post)

Necessity, more than desire, has dictated a similarly unconventional approach in St. Fidelis Parish in a downtrodden downtown Chicago neighborhood. For 10 years, the parish has been run without a priest by Sister Leonette Kaluzny, who is entitled to do everything a priest can do except administer the sacraments, which include hearing confessions.

"I hear confessions anyway," the Polish-born Kaluzny, 69, said with a smile. "You do a lot of counseling in this ministry."

St. Fidelis was once home to eight priests, but when she arrived, Kaluzny filled a vacuum now shared by more than 3,100 U.S. parishes. Each weekend, visiting priests take turns celebrating Mass in the basement of the former parish school -- rented by the diocese to the Chicago public school district to help pay the bills.

Appointed by the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin as the first layperson to head a parish in the Chicago archdiocese, Kaluzny faced resistance at first. "This was something so new to our Catholic people," she said, "because a priest was next to God."

Yet after a decade of watching her in action, some of the same people wonder why she is not ordained. The Catholic Church does not permit women's ordination.

"At one time, I wanted to be ordained," Kaluzny explained. "But right now I feel freer. I feel I can do almost more than the priest does. Rome for me, it's so far away. I push the laity to take their rightful role in the church as baptized Christians."

"When I got here, it was, 'Father had to do this. Father had to do that. That's Father's job,' " Kaluzny recalled. Her response: "No, it's not! You do it."

Yvonne DeBruin, who oversees lay ministers in the Joliet, Ill., diocese, sees the church polarized between tradition and innovation, the past and the future. She, for one, believes the church should become more open, more flexible.

"We need to claim our church. It's not the priests' church. It's not the bishops' church. It's not the pope's church," said DeBruin, who was disappointed by the limits enforced by John Paul II on the laity. "It's not about women's ordination. It's about serving the needs of the people. By having a lack of priests, are we serving our people?"

Keiran O'Kelly, 54, has seen the Catholic Church change in her lifetime. She remembers knowing in grammar school that she would work with the church as an adult, "but nothing was available." She was a girl, after all. Later, when she told her pastor she intended to go to divinity school, "he looked at me as if I was from Mars."

Now O'Kelly directs the lay ecclesial ministry program for the Chicago archdiocese, working to train lay people for prominent positions across the city and beyond. She calls it a "grass-roots movement for the better that the bishops are now trying to get a handle on from above."

There are women virtually everywhere in church affairs, including sanctuaries, schools, hospitals and universities. Pastoral associates, who can lead worship and direct parish operations but cannot consecrate the Eucharist, are often women. In Chicago, 70 of 82 pastoral associates are women.

Still, the jobs at the very top are reserved for ordained men.

"It's like working in a family business and you're never going to be part of the family," O'Kelly said. "You have to go in knowing your place and being willing to take it."

Mary Foley is the first pastoral life associate in the Joliet diocese. Appointed by the bishop, she performs spiritual duties alongside a priest in a suburban parish of 800 families. Some people have told her that accepting a woman as their spiritual leader has been difficult.

Foley has found the job lonely and trying at times. But she is convinced that the future of the Catholic Church is at stake.

"Things are going to have to change," Foley said, "for the faith to be handed down."

Post Script: Attached to the article was a picture of the priest during mass. Suit and Tie, no vestments, not even a freaking cassock. This approach to sacramentality seems indicative of a deeply compimised piety, I cannot imagine he is faithful to any of his vows. If he cannot be obident to authority or tradition, how may people really think he can be chaste?
If, God forbid, this was the only mass left on earth, I would have myself and my family pend the entire liturgy prostrated in the direction of the blessed sacrament, wherever they have hidden it, as for receving, I would, but kneeling and on the toungue, from teh priest, unless of course he does not distribute, in which case I will not receive.

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Not that I agree with the nonsense this parish is selling but:

"And "Communal Reconciliation"? There is no such animal. There can't be. That's a Protestant innovation."

It depends what is meant here by Communal Reconciliation. The Roman Rite allows for a Communal Rite of Penance with individual confession and absolution as well as another with general confession and general absolution to be used only in the most dire circumstances i.e. soldiers going to battle. It would be illicit to use the latter in a parish context. The former is perfectly lawful.

"Or how about their "Cross of New Life"? The Rubrics clearly state that there must be a Crucifix. Yet this church has a large lucite modern sculpture of a man who is clearly not cruicifed."

There must be a Crucifix but it can be the Processional Cross and does not necessarily have to be the Altar Cross.

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