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According to an article the most recent New Yorker magazine the Bush Administration is planning to attack Iran, and is not ruling out the use of nuclear weapons.
The usual allegations of a "new Hitler" and so-called "American intelligence" are being hauled out to garner public support for yet another war.
For a more temperate approach to Iran, see this this American Conservative magazine article. [amconmag.com]

-Daniel

Boy, are we on the same page! I like the magazine, and I think that Pat Buchanan "nailed it" when, in discussing the Israel lobby, he said that the U.S. Congress is "Israeli-occupied territory". Mr. Buchanan has pointed out that most of GW's "neo-conservative" advisers were also advisers to Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel. In the nineties, they advised Netanyahu that the foriegn policy of Israel should be one to "take out Iran, Iraq, and Syria". Sound familiar?

Dear Daniel,

I have a big problem. Today I was listening to Pres. Bush and he said that England, Germany and France were all trying to solve the problem with Iran. He said that we are not going alone in our (so far) diplomacy, because when we do, then everyone criticises us. He then said that we are trying to get China and Russia on board, etc.

Sooo, after Pres. Bush's Speech on Fox News, they had two people with their comments. Now I don't know who they were, but from what they were saying, I have to assume the one man was a Democrat, and the woman a Republican.

Now here comes the good part! The man stated that Pres. Bush said that our good friends were China and Russia, and that Russia was doing this and that, and that China was doing this and that, etc. etc., and that we shouldn't try to do things alone, and do things unilaterally, etc.

Of course I expected the Republican to say that Pres. Bush stated that we were going along with Britain, France and Germany, but she was off on a tandem.

Now is this a new strategy of the liberals, that whatever is said they should insinuate that the opposite was said...and do it immediately when something is not to their benefit? I say this because the same thing happened over the immigration issue.

I was listening to Lou Dobbs (I think that's his name), on CNN. The Mexican rep. was saying one thing, and he was continuously making it seem that the opposite was being said. Lou then said how the Catholic Church was partly to blame because they are not doing anything to stop the Mexicans from coming to this country, and they are not concerned with the dignity of the Mexicans, etc. Of course that they live in cardboard boxes was never mentioned.

Am I going crazy. But then again I have heard from Dems, that if you say something often enough, people will believe it. Games, games, games...but what about integrity?

Zenovia

Here's the speech my favorite elected official, Congressman Ron Paul of Texas gave before the House of Representatives on April 5 http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr040506.htm

It's similar in content.

Please consider the source of the article, Seymour Hersch, who is very unfriendly towards the Bush Administration.

My all time favorite political comedian is congresswoman Maxine Waters of California

I don't know, Bush would be pretty hilarious if his policies weren't resulting in so much death and destruction.
His "way" with the English language is pretty slapstick...

-Daniel

I thank God that Kerry and mother teresa (as she asked to be called) was not elected.

God's Will be done!

That is a big problem!

Relax! I'm just kidding!

Logos Teen

I am quite pessimistic in case Iran is attacked by the Western Empires, they don't have many allies there. Even the Russians would benefit from the elimination of the Islamic Government and the creation of a coalition where the socialist and communist groups will allow them to share a part of the cake with the US Oil Companies. Again, Christians and Jews, who now enjoy a certain protection given by the Revolutionary Law will be in the middle of the conflict and suffer reveange.

However this is only hypotetical. In recent days, President Bush has denied the rumours that they're planning an invasion of Iran at least not in short term. This is unlkely to happen, as he will finish his presidential period soon and the new Democratic government will most likely not follow his unpopular policies.

Dear Rose II you said:

" thank God that Kerry and mother teresa (as she asked to be called) was not elected"

I say:

I have a big problem with the above. How can one compare a saint such as Mother Theresa which basically means that she has heroic virtue, with a man like Kerry. First of all, Kerry sways with the wind in everything he says, which means he is an opportunist and a liar. Besides, he married his wife because she was a widowed billionaire.

But then again, he has a pleasant voice, if that is what's important.

Zenovia

Zenovia, I believe Rose2's "Mother Teresa" was a joking reference to Kerry's wife, Teresa, who was sometimes referred to that way in the media.

Dear Mexican you said:

" This is unlkely to happen, as he will finish his presidential period soon and the new Democratic government will most likely not follow his unpopular policies."

I say:

As a Christian you should hope that the Democrats do not get in. Actually, it was their liberal policies that have made our society the way it is... and it is the immorality of that society that influences the world.

Let us hope, (but then again you are not an American), that all the reforms that have been accomplished, such as 'tort' reform, and the judges that are now in the Supreme Court will manage to change our culture.

Also we have our economy. It started to grow with Pres. Reagan's policies, and then began to faulter with Pres. Clinton. Try to realize that our economic growth, which is fantastic right now, also affects the world.

If we should fall into a recession or even a depression, which is likely to happen if a Democrat comes back in, means not only that we will have problems here, but it will affect the world immensely. Millions upon millions will probably starve in the third world, and no doubt nations that will be the most affected such as China, might attack an oil rich nation in order to satisfy her people's needs.

Things are never as simple as they seem.

Zenovia

Dear Theist Gal,

I'm so dumb! I never realized that she was called mother theresa. I was wondering why the name wasn't capitalized.

Zenovia

Actually Zenovia, during Kerry's campaign, his wife Teresa gave a speech at a gay/lesbian rally. It was televised. She spoke to the huge crowd saying that she was on their side and that she would like them to call her "mother teresa" and of course they all applauded their approval.

(sorry, i should have explained myself better.)