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Alex,

Maybe you offended the ghost of Stonewall Jackson. You know, he would think it is obvious all good Christians are Saints wink

But seriously. Probably offended people who were related to those killed by him. Of course, we Catholics and Orthodox have Saints killed by each other, so knowing history, I don't see it as a just cause to reject someone's holiness smile

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Well Alex since I am not a doctor of anything, just a common ordinary everyday housewife, you and Henry lost me a long time ago in your conversation.

I think Henry is wrong as I can read it. It is a case of letting intelectual talents come over allowing the Spirit of God to minister to people. Personally, I don't appreciate so called theologans who feel they know more than the Church or the Fathers of the Church. Or that their studies have deemed them to be more astute than the everyday ordinary person. God works through the humble not the proud. And, I am not saying I am that humble person either.

Lawrence's explantion I could understand. Sorry if I offened you or anyone else, but I know exactly what Lawrence was trying to say.

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Dear Rose,

Actually, you haven't offended anyone - who said so?

I may be a Ph.D., but I'm up to my elbows in soapy water as I scrub the floors and bathrooms here!

I was referring to my dear brother Neil's earlier post to me where he too engaged in some serious clock-cleaning . . . smile

As Blessed Pope John XXIII once asked a visitor, "Are you a theologian?"

To which came the answer, "No, Your Holiness!"

"Well, Deo Gratias!" the Pope replied. "Neither am I!"

I was just making yet another flippant comment (and there are those here who don't have a sense of humour of any kind, present company excluded).

I agree with Lawrence, of course. I had long thought Gen. Jackson to have been something of a crackpot - even worse than me.

But I'm coming to a different conclusion and this is another excuse for me to read more Civil War history smile

I'm just trying to assess this post in terms of what our brother Neil said on the Prayer thread - hmmm . . . too many minutiae, unduly calling attention to oneself, trying to get others to be in awe of me?

Listen, ultimately it's hard to be humble when you're me! smile smile smile

But I've come to be proud of my humility and I also try to let everyone know how humble I really am! smile

I think I hear the ghost of Gen. Jackson yelling out a command for me to take over . . . smile

The Yankees may be coming . . . smile

God bless, Pani!

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Alex

I'd recommend you read "Stonewall" by Burke Davis, assuming you haven't already. And on another topic, have you read "Crown Of Fire", which is about Savonarola ?
I'm a big admirer of Savonarola also. He had the amazing ability to steer hardened sinners onto the path of righteousness.

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Alex,

I have always looked to reading your posts and I truly find them most enlightening. I have learned so much from you and you have always demonstrated the ability to talk with anyone on their level. I appreciate all of your abilites and your stories.

For the life of me though I don't really understand anything that Henry said. Maybe I am just dumb in that area, or maybe I am just not willing to pay the attention that it needs to understand it.

Ultimatley I just felt that when the authority that was in the presence of the Mass, maybe I should say when they removed the autority of the visual, maybe when the removed the beauty the regality(if there is such a word) of the Mass was removed and the changes made in Vatitcan II, it allowed so much confusion to enter the church. With confusion it is easy for the darkness of this world to enter. When that majesterial authority that had been shown to the world was taken away although it was still present in reality, but not visualy, it allowed the world the world to change.

WELL SO NOW THAT I HAVE CONFUSED EVERYONE BY TRYING TO EXPLAIN MY THOUGHTS biggrin you know how scrambled my thinking can get. :p

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Yes, some threads can get confusing.

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