www.byzcath.org Forums General Discussions Town Hall Sale of property: St John's Trumbull CT

The Eparchy of Passaic is doing something right in St. Petersburg, FL, or more likely, the credit belongs to Heaven. Starting from scratch, the Byzantine parish there has a new church, pre-school, grade school, and high school.

The administrator of the St. Louis Mission looked at the church roster, and told me the majority of the members are young families of Irish and Italian descent.

A few more parishes like this will get Rome's attention.

JP,
I may be mistaken, but I believe the Immaculata School uses the Byzantine Catholic church facilities and attends Liturgy, but in all ways it is a Traditional Roman Catholic private school. I believe the school is not under the jurisdiction of the Eparchy of Passaic.
Sam

Just to underscore Sam's comments. The School of the Immaculata is a private and independent school. As such, the school's curriculum is not subject to review by the local Roman Ordinary nor by the Eparch of Passaic. The school follows a Roman Catholic theology curriculum (Faith and Life series published by Ignatius Press and CUF). This is aventure by parents who take their vocation as the primary educators of their children quite seriously.

Sorry to move off topic.

Would some kind soul please post the name and address of the current nuncio for the U.S.?

Eli

I also apologize for being off topic, but as you can see here
http://www.sttherese-byzantine.com/april_2_bulletin

St. Therese Church embraces such Roman Catholic practices as Divine Liturgy on Lenten Weekdays. The only day the Presanctified Liturgy is held is on Wednesdays.

Looks like a Sunday Divine Liturgy in anticipation Saturday afternoon as well. Vespers is not mentioned, nor Orthros/Matins.

I think this is almost universal in the Ruthenian metropolia of Pittsburgh. It must have been this way for many many years.

Lets get back to the topic at hand please which is the sale of the St John's property for developement of an age restricted community.

I am happy to report that the number of parishoners who are against the sale is growing. Unfortunately there are only a few who are willing to voice their opinion. Hopefully that will change.

The following is a quick recap of last week's Wetland Meeting.

The developer presented updates to their plans based on questions and requests from Commissioners at the March hearing. While some of the questions were answered, several remained unresolved. The developer also brought an environmental consultant.

"Save Nichols", the group challenging the developer's plans, responded with an attorney, Joel Green and an expert witness/Soil Scientist/Environmentalist, Aleksandra Moch. Together, they challenged the adequacy of the developer's plans. Their testimony ranged from issues on the handling of storm water to a broadened definition of what the Wetlands Commission should consider in their deliberations.

Near the end of the hearing the applicant requested a 30 day continuation.
While most of us felt that the Commission should have denied the application based on the lack of requested information, the Commission decided to grant the request.

The developer has a new list of items (some are carryovers from the last
meeting) to prepare for the next meeting.

We will send out additonal information regarding the next meeting as dates
and times are confirmed. Thanks for you continued support.

Dear Angel Lady,
One thing that has not been detailed on this thread, that you might like to clue us in on is this: what is the actual basis of the opposition to the sale?

Why would we oppose the sale of the property?

The parishioners were told that a "few acres" that they don't use might be sold when in actuality it is a majority of the property that is up for sale leaving approximately 4.2 acres of which 2.5 is parking lot.
The parishioners were never consulted.
The land in question is a small portion of an existing wetland. Building on this land would severely damage the ecosystem. It is not good for the environment, period.
The construction of the road & homes would aggravate water problems for the homes in the neighborhood. Who knows what problems it might cause for the parish.
Adding the additional access road is a safety hazard for the adjacent Little League Field.

This is land that should be preserved.

The pastor seems to think that this is a good move for the parish since he doesn't forsee any growth in the future. He needs to open his eyes & realize that he is the real problem & should have been transfered months ago.

I am only to get on approximately once or twice a week now that I can't access this forum from my home PC. I thought this information had been posted? I don't understand why something like Cardinal Daoud's contact information should be something that would get pulled down?

Sorry my mistake...I see Cardinal Daoud's information on Page 2. Make sure to get copies of all the letters that are sent. If there is no response or acknowledgement even of the letters which were sent I would suggest sending the letters a complete package to the Holy Father. It may sound strange, but Holy Trinity was not able to utilize its hall until that package of letters was sent to JPII. Whether, he or anyone in his office actually saw them is another story, but just the fact that others saw this package was going to him may have stirred up some action.

It is pity to hear of parish that is so far behind as that parish of saint Teresa in America. I thought it was bad enough with the 'Prussian' altar servers in the photos with their latinised extra short stikars and cassocks . The gloves were a real turn off. That is pre Vatican II extremism at it's worst . Liturgy on weekdays in Great Lent...where have they been over teh past 40 years!!!!

We pray for them.

ICXC
NIKA

Pavel, is your post meant in jest? Your offer of prayers is so evocative of the Pharisee's. This is not your parish, nor even a parish of your particular church; please spare us your expressions of pity.

Yes it was hard on the kids and not fair, they are not to blame for this mess. They are clearly dedicated to what they do and no doubt they do it well.

Someone is responsible for this and it just goes to prove there is not much in the line of supervision for the clergy by bishops or deans to allow for such a wide variation in observance.

As for whose parish it is is of no consequence. This is on the net as if it is normal Byzantine when clearly is is not and whats more you know as well as I do that this should have gone the way of all uniatisms ages ago.

ICXC
NIKA

Hello! The P&Z meeting scheduled for Wed. April 26th has been moved to Frenchtown Elementary School in anticipation of a large crowd.
LET'S NOT DISAPPOINT!