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Originally posted by Nathan Hicks:
(tries to remove his foot from his mouth) :rolleyes: Nathan, You might want to try a little steak sauce with that. It helps make the sole and heal a little more tasty  . In IC XC, Father Anthony+
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Nathan,
Trust me - try the crow! It's delish!
:p Gordo
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Gordo, I think we may have to start a new culinary forum. Between recipes for crow and how to prepare them and now we have foot in mouth. What do you think? I can ask the admin for his thoughts. :rolleyes:  In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!
Regarding the dubious nature of Monatery Icons, are they not okay once blessed by a priest? There is a beautiful parish in Cleveland and the entire iconastas is done strictly in Monastery Icon icons?
The majority appear to conform to proper byzantine style, although a few are missing IC XC and MP OY.
Thanks for your help.
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Well, now it's time for one of the iconographers to chime in! I've never heard of a prohibition about depicting anyone in black garments in icons. Granted, I might not know all the rules and canons, but I've seen enough icons of men in black and women in black to think that such a prohibition either doesn't exist or is ignored by most iconographers. Now, I was often told by my art teachers that one shouldn't use black right out of the tube, or at least one should use it sparingly... I don't think that amounts to a canon, though, as much as I respect my teachers. Dave
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Michael not to mention that they are gnostic but also a bad depiction of art. i find them tasteless.
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Dear Dave/Chtec,
Your avatar is very, very cool. I truly love it!
Just wanted to let you know.
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Originally posted by Father Anthony: Gordo,
I think we may have to start a new culinary forum. Between recipes for crow and how to prepare them and now we have foot in mouth. What do you think? I can ask the admin for his thoughts. :rolleyes:
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Father Anthony+ Father, bless! I think it'd be a "shoe-in"! Toe � la mode is one of my favorite recipes! It could be a whole new category of penitential fine dining. :p Gordo
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Originally posted by Alice:
Dear Dave/Chtec,
Your avatar is very, very cool. I truly love it!
Just wanted to let you know.
In Christ,
Alice Dear Alice, Thank you! I found it on an Orthodox website from Romania. Maybe someone can design one with a Lestovka! Dave
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Dear Father Stephanos,
Bless. Thank you for your input. May I ask what makes them [overall] a bad depiction of art? The reason for this is I have seen some of the icons in Kiots on the tetrapod, and I own some myself. I personally love the Icon of the Theophony, and the Life of Jesus and Life of Mary.
Of the icons we have have, they appear to conform to the Byzantine style, and the yellow gold background with the maroon trim is very eye catching.
Should I be concerned about these and get rid of them?
Thank you.
In Christ,
Michael
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FYI...I saw several icons today at Nicholai-do in Tokyo of saints in black. Also, Father Anthony, you may notice that in my new Avatar icon, there is a fine feathered friend feeding St. Elias. Perhaps this could be the cover of our cookbook? Gordo
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Originally posted by Michael B:
Should I be concerned about these and get rid of them? Michael, First let me start with the usual disclaimer that this is just my opinion. I do not, personally, think the Monastery Icons products (and I think they are a mass produced product) are aestheicially unpleasing. But they are a mass produced product and they look it. KWIM? I also do not think that there is anything inherenty "wrong" about the icons themselves. So if you own some, and you are pleased with them I see no reason to get rid of them. It isn't like you have something evil, demonic/satanic in your possession. However, given the dubious nature of the company from whom you are buying it might be prudent to avoid purchasing from them in future. In this way you can avoid any further economic support of a company whose philosophy appears to be far removed from orthodox Christianity. That's my .02 Carole
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Nathan,
You might want to try a little steak sauce with that. It helps make the sole and heal a little more tasty . Eh, it tastes better dry.... I've never heard of a prohibition about depicting anyone in black garments in icons. Granted, I might not know all the rules and canons, but I've seen enough icons of men in black and women in black to think that such a prohibition either doesn't exist or is ignored by most iconographers. Strange. *Scratches head* Now I'm really confused about the meaning of black on an icon.....does it mean the abyss? If it does is there an exception for a monk's garment? I think I'll make a cook-book on how to eat your foot. I've done it enough on this board and elsewhere to the point that I think I'm a definitive authority on taste and texture of a foot...
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Nathan, I would not worry about it too much. I would suggest that you do pick up some of the numerous iconography manuals that are available from some of the Orthodox bookstores online. They would definitely have detailed explanations to what you are wondering about, and it will hopefully save you from that foot problem . In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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