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Alex,

Don�t forget Nova Scotia! I remember when Meech Lake failed the premier of Nova Scotia said: �Oh, well, no problem. Just sew another star on the flag.�

I don�t remember his name but I still remember him!

Admin

Dear Administrator,

Your job description about writing a lot and saying absolutely nothing - that's me!!

Could I use you as a possible reference?

After all, there's over 17,000 examples of that kind of writing from me just right here on this Forum!

(Good to know that you and Daniel are, well, good! Hope to meet you both one day - I'll bring the flag! ).

Alex

The Newfie separatist flag, I hope...

Meanwhile, the story of secret prisons for suspected terrorists is unfolding in the newspapers.
And the Bush Administration continues its meltdown...thanks be to God!
Daniel

Dear Administrator you said:

"I applaud the Bush administration for acting not only to protect America against her enemies but to make war against those who would kill us. Too bad that Bush cannot run for a third term. I hope that Cheney changes his mind and runs in 2008."

I say:

I couldn't agree with you more. It seems that so many are living in some kind of fantasy world. They take the position of France that lobbied against us in going to war with Iraq, (look at them now), while equating us with 'regimes' such a Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

Maybe life has been a little too easy on them. It seems they can't distinguish the difference between 'reality' and 'la-la' land. Has it been that many years since we were attacked?

Zenovia

I'd say France is in desperate need of Charles Martel.

9/11 was a pretext for the neocons to pursue their imperialistic schemes [see their 1997 manifesto: here [newamericancentury.org] ,signed by a veritable neoconservative who's who, including prominent members of the Administration: Cheney, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Rumsfeld etc.]
As more and more pre-9/11 intelligence comes out one begins to wonder if they knew about the plot and decided to let it unfold [I am not suggesting they knew how deadly it would prove to be] as it served their purposes.
By the time this unravels it may make Nixon, let alone Clinton, look like small timers.
So far as I know, these presidents did not endorse denying American citizens their constitutional rights, the use of torture, etc.
-Daniel

Dear Daniel,

I can't believe it, but you're beginning to sound more and more like Al-Jazeera...and here I thought the Middle Easterners had vivid imaginations.

But the article did remind me of Clinton's policy in Kosovo....a complete failure you know! Not only did he tell the Kosovans that he was going to rebuild the land he bombed, but he assured the Serbs that it would remain part of Serbia and that all the minorities will be able to live in peace. So much for that!

The Christian Serbs and Gypsies have either left or are leaving for fear of the KLA, (a Muslim Albanian terrorist organization, which Clinton's bombing supported), and all the ancient churches and monasteries have been destroyed.

Zenovia

Dear Daniel,

I don't credit the conspiracy theory.

I just take it to be incompetence and poor judgement. The Bush administration made a classic mistake in warfare, radically underestimating the enemy.

They have chosen their battles very poorly, making terrible calls, losing the high ground morally.

I think they relied too much on intelligence from Israel and Mossad, who clearly had their own agenda and motives, manipulating some of the small minds that George has chosen to keep around him.

Nick

Yes, I am sort of tempermentally adverse to conspiracy theories; still one must wonder. They certainly took advantage of the attacks to further their agenda [attacking Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, for example.]
And as far as the Empire goes, it is a matter of public record that that is what the neoconservatives had in mind long before the Bush ascendency [see link above].
-Daniel
ps- Yes, Zenovia, continue to believe the Authorized Version; that is what they want. Or take the time and yes, the imagination, to look at the public record of deceptions and crimes by our government and open your mind to the possibilities...

It is clearly Israel's foreign policy to keep its neighbors weak and distracted.

We have fallen into their purposes, without thinking what the long term interests of the US are. We have to learn to think for ourselves, and not fall for such obvious set ups.

What I don't understand (except as simple evidence of poor judgement) is why George chose to listen to 'biased' intelligence from Israel, while at the same time, ignoring what his own CIA was telling him. His advisors must have really been pushing in this direction.

Nick

The "Bush meltdown" ----

How silly. The Left is nothing if not persistent. persistence is all it has.

The Left ignores the documented eveidence of the Saddam Hussein-Al Qaeda connections, some of which have been broadcast on ABC News as far back as 1999.

The Left screams and throws temper tantrums about everything Bush. 2,000 dead American soldiers in two and a half years in Iraq is not the same as several thousand dead American soldiers in one day in places like Normandy and Iwo Jima.

The Left refuses to recognize the War on Radical Islam.

Oh, Radical Islam knows it, very well.

The PLO, Hezbollah, PLFP, Khomeni, Assad, the riots in France, the murder of van Gogh, the 1993 WTC bombing, the USS Cole, the US Embassy bombings in Africa, the Bali bombing, the murder of the three schoolgirls in Indonesia, no, none of that matters to the American Left. The only bad guys are the Bush Administration and "neocons". The Pat Buchananite "paleocons" think Isolationism is the answer. Sure it is, Pat.

Poland found what it has claimed to be WMD in Iraq - and French made, at that. Of course, Chirac denied it and the American media dropped it.

I am no fan of how things have gone in Iraq. I fear for the future of the Assyrian Christians and the Chaldean Catholics. Sharia may become the law of the land in Iraq and that means the Christians will become dhimmi.

Yet, I never hear of solutions from the Left - just carping, moaning and groaning, whining and complaining - the same nonsense that has always come from the Left.
In addition, the apologists for Hussein have emerged, just as the Left has always apologized for Castro and now apologizes for Chavez.

The West has been at war with Radical Islam for centuries. Why is in now Istanbul and not Constantinople? Why did formerly Catholic Spain fight for nearly 800 years to drive out Islam? Why did Italy and Spain fight the invading Muslim Turks at Lepanto - and win? Why did King Jan Sobieski and his Polish troops put a stop to invading Muslim Turks in 1683?

Oh, the Modern Left would have made excuses for the invading Muslims in every case and complained about Queen Isabella and Jan Sobieski.

Just like they ignore the latest book written by a Rabbi that not only exonerates Pope Pius XII but details the history of Hitler's Mufti and the connection between the Nazis and Radical Islam.

The Left is all bluster and propaganda and has no guts to stand up for anything. Oh, they do a great job espousing pacifism on message boards but offer nothing of substance.

There, I said it.

Whatever about the Left, my fear, is that the Bush administration does not understand this either! This challenge of civilizations is one we just may lose, no thanks to people like George, who just doesn't seem to understand that much of what he is doing is playing into the hands of this enemy.

Nick

Juan- As I am not remotely a "Leftist" I assume your screed does not apply to me. Obviously a denunciation of particular evils is no defense of particular policies, though many of your contentions are hardly beyond debate.
-D

Dear Daniel,

If you are referring to that manifesto from the neo-conservative Project for the New American Century, it is both disturbing and disgusting. The document is eerily similar to the rhetoric espoused by the radicals President Bush denounces.