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Brethren in Christ,

I just though that I would share this link with you.

http://www.holyrosarytoledo.com/

You may go there and see how other Parishes are also being seized by Bishops. The "History of Holy Rosary Church" part is of particular significance to me. Also, please check out the link to Future Church, http://www.futurechurch.org/ . If I were Bishop and a Parish of mine put a link to such a liberal garbage organization, I may very well close the Church. Church Closings are always sad. But I think we can perhaps learn a few things from the Parishioners of Holy Rosary Church regarding battling Church Closings/Seizures.

And Please remember to Pray, Pray, Pray!

Dear Friend,

Well, if THAT'S the future Latin Church, then you can have it!

It's Orthodoxy for me, then!

Alex

Dear Orthodox Catholic,

No Thanks! Orthodoxy for me also. (Although then some of the posters may accuse me of being outside the Church) Although, I do wonder if perhaps the closing of Holy Rosary has something to do with their affiliation with Future Church.

http://www.holyrosarytoledo.com/blairmemberappeal.html

Dear Brethren in Christ,

Please go to the above link. Is that a familiar sight?

Now, this is creative! (A Slav must have thought of this)

http://www.holyrosarytoledo.com/plane.html

Protestant.

I congratulate the Bishop for taking such action if his intention truly was to stamp out future church.

It's good to note they sent their letters to the right place (Rome) and got the right answers back instead of writting to all and sundry and getting nowhere.

Now how does the bishops respond the that?

ICXC
NIKA

The Plane! The Plane!
I'm sorry. I can't stop laughing at this one. Can you picture this flying over Lackawanna Ave (Passaic)?


http://www.holyrosarytoledo.com/images/plane2.JPG



Sam

cool to be catholic. Like the Sopranos.

The appeals page timeline is rather sad.

Their bishop would not reply to their pleas.
They attempted to deliver their written plea multiple times to the Congregation for the Clergy, etc and multiple times the package was denied delivery and returned. It appears their pastor tried to hand deliver it to the Nuncio, it was then forwarded to Rome again. Rome sat on it 6 months and ruled against it anyway.
Talk about brick walls. :rolleyes:


Sam
://www.holyrosarytoledo.com/updates.html

My favorite line from Ambassador Kosh on Babylon fits here.

"The Truth is a three edged sword. Your truth, their truth, and the Truth."


There are two sides to every story. I give the bishop the benefit of the doubt, but then I guess I am just odd (and obedient) like that.

I am substantially in agreement with David above.

I do not believe that bishops have an evil intent to destroy the church. Some parishes need to be closed or consolidated with other parishes. There are speculations here that the parishes are chosen for closing based upon the value that can be pulled out of them, that's quite a difficult thing to prove and I am too far removed to know.

Now whether the bishops handle closings with pastoral love is another matter. It seems we are seeing cases of clumsy, or cold-hearted handling but I am not convinced that the bishop had any alternative (I am also not convinced that he did not have any alternative, I just don't know).

Probably this issue is what the Ruthenians agonized over in the 1930's when the titles were collected. It is recalled that some parishes put up quite a fight because they did not trust the bishops to handle the properties in the communities best interest.

Now as far as Latin parishes being shut down, I have sympathy but not much. At least they usually have numerous suitable alternatives and will not be left "high and dry". They will always have nostalgia for the "old" parish but that's the extent of their pain, they are not actually cast out like unwanted stepchildren. They may be angry but they are still blessed to be served by their church somewhere not too far away.

+T+
Michael

It has been said here a few times that the people have moved to other areas. People migrate within their own countries. Hopefully the Church has tried to respond to this new need. I suppose that the costs of keeping parishes where most have migrated away from is something bishops have to look into. Here in Australia we have Churches all over the place but the people have moved on, so the place is no longer needed. Sadly Churches like ours seem to have a bad reputation for processes used that dont seem very Christian.

ICXC
NIKA

Hmmm... the whole situation is sad, imo. I think it's terrible that their bishop is trying to close their church... but then we don't know *why* (at least I couldn't find any explanationin that regard). Perhaps the bishop has good reason to close it.

And I too am disgusted with the link to FutureChurch, which is nothing more than another Pro-women's-ordination-let's-be-Protestant "Catholic" organization. Perhaps that is one of the reasons?

God bless,

Karen