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Let the moviemaker who is without sin throw the first stone!

I think we should judge movies, books and TV shows on their merits. If we look too closely at the creators, we will ALWAYS find something to criticize.

In fact, as I recall, some of the Psalms were written by a guy who had an affair and then murdered his girlfriend's husband. The Psalms are still worth reading, though.

Dear Administrator,

That does it!

I'm nominating Theist Gal (aka "Dolly") for the BEST POST EVER award!

Do you have such an award? If not, can you create one? I heard you can do anything . . .

Hello Dolly!

BRILLIANT, I say, BRILLIANT to your post above!

You're the greatest!!

Alex

Dear David the Byzantine Carmelite,

Hey, how's the Scapular hanging?

Could you explain what the "pre-novitiate" is all about?

Alex

Scapular is hanging great!

I sort of covered it briefly in the other thread that you responded to me in.

If you want more let me know and I can start a new thread.


David, Byzantine Catholic and Carmelite pre-novice

While this is true, no one has to spend there money on anything and we can use any reason that we wish to not spend out money.

Lets also not forget that the author of those Psalms was repentant.

This is why I keep these sort of things to myself. If I think someone is unworthy of my time and money I just don't go and/or buy. No one else really needs to know why I chose what I chose as there is nothing morally wrong with chosing not to spend your money on some form of enterainment.


David, Byzantine Catholic and Carmelite pre-novice

I have spoken today with a priest of my acquaintance who knows Mel Gibson rather well. My friend assures me that Mel Gibson has not gone off to the sede vacantists, and is unlikely to do so.

My friend also pointed out that the senior Mr. Gibson (Mel's father, Hutton Gibson) is indeed a sede vacantist, and that it is highly probable that confusion between father and son is at the bottom of the inaccurate report regarding the son.

In addition, there is no reason to expect Mel Gibson to pick a public fight with his father over the issue.

Incognitus

Dear David of Carmel,

Personally, I think a thread by you to discuss issues concerning your religious development in Carmel would not only be interesting, but also inspiring!

Who knows? Perhaps there may be others here who might get the "monastic bug" and awaken their latent vocation!

As for me, I'm over the hill (or mountain, as the case may be) and, more to this, I'm married . . .

In short, over the hill . . .

Alex

How pre is pre novice in the Carmelites? Is this the stage called postulant or still pre to that?

Are you with the ones with shoes and socks or the ones with the short white cloaks?

Nice to see you back again. Pleased to see all is well.

ICXC
NIKA

I love you, Alex! Will you marry me?

Alex are you moving to Utah ?

james

ps-just discovered I have a Canadian Honda ! What's nxt whiskey and beer ?

Invasion by commerce...quick seal the border...eh

Alex,
I tried something like this but due to negative comments (that were moderatred out) and just the general tone of negativity from from some eastern christians I decided to keep it a bit quite for a time as this reaction really saddened me and put a dent in my vocation and spirituality for a time.

It seems that it is not just our bishops and religious orders that have a mold for vocations but also the laity and if you do not fit their mold they think something is wrong with you.

This is one of the aspects I love in Carmel, you are not only allowed but also encouraged, to be yourself.


David, Byzantine Catholic and Carmelite pre-novice

Dear Dolly,

Alas, we are like two ships that pass in the middle of the night . . .

Praying that we meet at the great Heavenly Wedding Feast, I am,

Your humble adorer servant,

Alex

Dear David,

Never mind then . . .

Although I've never (yet) met you, I do believe you are slated for very special things in God's plan!

You are like the apostle to whom Christ said, "David, follow me" - and you get up and follow, humbly, simply and with complete trust and confidence in the Lord.

May the Most Holy Theotokos of Carmel cover you always with her Scapular as a token of Her heavenly Mantle of Protection.

May Our Lord continue to radiate His love and grace through you to all you come into contact with and minister to!

In Carmel,

Alex

Timbot asked for this thread to be closed, but , I have learned some things about the radical western Rites. As if the EO , we don't have some ultra-rights who think that theirs is the only valid communion. I was a radical western evangelical fundamentalist protestant myself for all but 3 decades, ...let me tell ya Tessa..oy veh..I have seen some things...! mikhailo

You know, I came to the Holy Eastern Orthodox Church, virtually kicking and screaming. The fact that I learned and finally accepted the Dogma of the Ever Virgin, and to boot, that Luther, Zwinglii, Calvin and Wesley all held that view, blew me away. So, that last hurdle was overcome and I was Baptised and Chrismated in our Cathedral in DC. So be it, since then, I have also, as having to accept that there were/are 5 ancient patriarchates, must , even though EO accept that the See of Rome is Ancient and in line with St Peter, that the present Pope is still Bishop of Rome...who can deny. So, there you have it... Mikhailo