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Being above board:

This church was scheduled to be demolished next year to make way for a newer church scheduled to be completed in 2005 or 2006. This incident only excellerated the demolition. However, it was a way of showing that this sort of ceremony should not be tolerated by any Christian church.

JoeS

Regarding my earlier post about EWTN and the clown masses. I found out the Raymond A. guest was Fr. Jerry Pokorsky and he is with the Adoremus organization. The topic was the new document for Latins, "Ecclesia de Eucharistia."

FYI, here is Father's website,
Society For The Renewal Of Sacred Liturgy [adoremus.org]

Also, some people on this forum might be interested in this website:

Beach Mass [stoughtonlifeteen.com]

At least the priest at the Beach Mass is wearing proper vestments.

Dave

This sets a remarkable precedent. If something goes on in a church that some people don't like, call in the wrecking crew. Better laid to ruin than reminding people of such blasphemy.

Dear Friends,

This reminds me of an historic case of when an Orthodox monastery came into the hands of the Poles during the 18th century.

Apparently, every stone of the monastery was removed by hand and taken to the river to be washed, cleansed from the "schismatic taint" of it being formerly Orthodox.

And then the whole building complex was reassembled.

I think Fr. Victor Pospishil mentioned that in one of his works.

And the Old Believers, at one time, allowed a Niconian bishop to visit one of their parishes.

But as the bishop was leaving, the Old Believers sprinkled Holy Water over his steps behind him . . .

Alex

Is this a problem happening in the Byzantine Catholic Church? Did I miss something? If something is happening in the Latin Church, does it always imply us? I believe Adoremus is a traditionalist Latin group.

Most complaints we get are a result of celebrating liturgies according to the correct rubrics and Typicon. How will Adoremus help us here?

Joe

I would think that the Orthodox would have some ceremony to re-consecrate a church, if a very grave sin was known to have been committed within it. In Chicago in 1923, the wife a priest at St Michael the Archangel (now closed) shot to death the church's new priest within the church, and the church, to my knowledge remained open for many more years.

My understanding is that the Catholic Church conducts a thorough process of re-consecration in such cases, though I have been unable to find details of what exactly was done after Becket's murder in Canterbury Cathedral, Robert Bruce's murder of John Comyn in Greyfriars Kirk in 1306, or the many desecrations of churches in Rome, during the sack of 1527.

Dear Lawrence,

Yes, in St Thomas Becket's case, as you know, the Cathedral was aspersed with holy water and the Metropolitan was canonized, while the King was excommunicated and underwent a heavy penance.

The place where St Thomas' crown, having been sliced off, fell was the Lady Chapel and was thereafter rededicated as the "Corona Chapel."

The horror of what happened to Becket resulted in his cult being popular as far East as Armenia!

The Comyn episode also resulted in a re-consecration.

Alex

Dear Cantor Joseph,

There you go again, Joe, not being a subservient Eastern Catholic to the prevenient traditions of the Latin Church.

Keep up the good work . . .

Alex

Usually this one comes from our own people, not the Latins. Those too worried about which Typicon we are using and other nonsense instead of rejoicing that we are actually following one and restoring services.

A chapel named after beer?! Quite the scandal...

Logos Teen