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#194277 04/10/06 12:52 PM
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Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

Who said it?

#194278 04/10/06 01:28 PM
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Some one modifing the original Prince Machiavelli in the "The Prince"

#194279 04/10/06 01:57 PM
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George Bush?

Naaaah, my mistake. That was "We're gonna smoke 'em out of their holes"

Sam

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Adolf Hitler?

#194281 04/10/06 02:12 PM
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Whoever said it, contradicts this:
b]By your fruit, They shall know you![/b]

#194282 04/10/06 03:32 PM
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Adolf Hitler?
Close, it was actually Hermann Goering to Gustave Gilbert, a German speaking intelligence officer working for the Allies, during a private conversation at the Nuremberg trials.

Gustave Gilbert recorded their convesations in his journal, which he later published as Nuremberg Diary.

The conversation reportedly occurred like this:

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

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Very good, Father Deacon!
And all the guesses were good ones; surely it is a familiar if cynical phenomenon.

-Daniel

#194284 04/10/06 04:44 PM
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Hitler reportedly said something quite similar:

How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.

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"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

Ironically congress hasn't declared a war since WWII. Guess that proves him wrong?

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A government is only as good as the people running it.


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