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It seams that 'less is best' when it comes to comments during a Papal funeral. Read this USA TODAY article from April 10, 2005;

Unforgivable trespass: Incessant Commentary (Article about news media coverage of papal funeral) [usatoday.com]

Some of my favorite quotes from this article include:

"The Vatican returned to Latin for John Paul's funeral, which sent the networks scurrying for translators. No doubt some viewers appreciated the help. But others may have preferred the times when the newscasts let us just soak in the rhythmic rise and fall of the Latin chants. Literal meaning is not always everything; In it's detachment from present reality, the untranslated Latin conveys the message that all that is happening has happened before and will happen again."

"For those seeking silence, the best stop was MSNBC. The cable network kept translation and interruption to a minimum, even letting the unfamiliar Eastern Rite prayers at the coffin swirl around us like incense."

"We'll probably never know exactly how many people saw the coverage of John Paul's funeral, through newscasters are already speculating that it could be the most-watched television event worldwide in history. My guess is that most of those viewers will long recall the event itself, the mix of Western and Eastern traditions, the crowd's emotional cries of "the Great" that brought the funeral to a temporary halt."

Some interesting statistisc include the number of viewers per network:

FOX NEWS......929,000 (+ 3% more than usual)
CNN...........709,000 (+ 38% more than usual)
MSNBC.........321,000 (+ 33% more than usual)

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Amen, et iterum dico Amen! Even if they weren't expecting Latin, it was a safe bet that a Papal funeral in Rome would not be conducted mainly in English. So what prevented the TV stations from obtaining the requisite texts in English translations and providing sub-titles, which do not make noise?
I was able to watch some substantial sections of Prince Rainier's funeral, and I am happy to report that the TV station which kindly broadcast it had a commentator who kept his mouth largely closed. God bless that man. And God grant Prince Rainier eternal rest in the Heavenly Kingdom.

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For anyone who has ever worked in television - how difficult/expensive, etc. is it to create subtitles for an event such as a Pope's funeral?

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Some English commentators/translators did overdo their part!

But considering there were 6,000 journalists, including those sent by the major U.S. networks, accredited for the event and the simulcast was beamed to an estimated worldwide audience of around 2 billion, probably their intent was to be able to communicate to these viewers in a neutral international language.

A slew of languages foreign (to us English speakers) might have been used by other international telecasts.

To me, it was understandable but I would have preferred a commentator/translator with minimal interjection like those anchoring golf tournaments, where silence is considered a virtue. wink

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Christ is Risen!

As the network coverage increases for the selection and installation of the new Pope, I would encourage viewers to try CBS.

For the funeral of Pope John Paul II, they had an announcer along with Father Paul Robichaud, who is a priest of the Diocese of Arlington. Father Paul also is well acquainted with Eastern Catholic Churches, and has been a frequent visitor in our parish. He speaks well, and also knows when to remain silent and let the event speak for itself.

I would anticipate CBS would again have Father Paul as the commentator for these activities.

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