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Dear Pani,

Yes, my father had a number of recipes for all manner of ailments using honey, propolis et al.

Your husband's recipe sounds very potent!

Honey-wine is a very old drink in Europe and in East Slavic countries it was reserved for major Church feasts.

People would boil it hot on the major feasts and the aroma would indicate to people that the day was an important holy-day.

Eastern Slavs would also do things like boil perogies/pyrohy in oil on St Barbara's day (a patron of Kyiv since a portion of her relics were brought to that city long ago). This was to honour her martyrdom by being boiled in oil . . .

Alex

I love all this talk of honey-bees!

My given name (not Talitha) means "honeybee" in Greek! My dad was a beekeeper, but I was not raised Catholic. I was actually named after my uncle's maid. So is it Divine Providence or what that I grew up to not only be Catholic (thanks to the intervention of the Mother of God) but a Greek one at that?

A little honey from local bees is a great way to battle seasonal hayfever. . .

Talitha welcome to the Byzantine Forum. I notice you have made a few posts, but I missed them.

God is so good. His ways are so awesome.

That is totally cool. Reminds me of the place where the snakes come to town. Sounds like your dad learned well from the experience of that man.

The heart wine truly does help with curing the ailments of the body. If anyone wants the recipe I will type it in for them.

Pani Rose

As a child of Irish and Scottish blood, I had always thought that it was the uisce beatha in the "hot toddy" that cured my colds and sore throats. I guess I was wrong.

Brad

Pani Rose,

I would appreciate the formula for the heart wine ! Can't get enough of good stuff...please no cod liver oil .

james

Dear Brad,

I think the uisge beatha or "water of life" had a lot to do with it too!

Did you know that the name "MacBeth" comes from "beatha?"

And that King Macbeth, although villified by the Sassanachs or English, was honoured as a local saint by the Scots?

A number of editions of the St John of Kronstadt press used to carry his name as a potential candidate for full Orthodox canonization under August 15/28 . . .

Alex

Dear Talitha,

Yes, taking a little honey with the local pollen will act to ward off hay fever, much like anti-bodies. One may also take pollen in tablet-form.

Your icon in your avatar is the Slavic Mother of God "Ostra Brama" or of the "spiked fence."

It was enshrined in a chapel on an overpass with spiked iron rods around it.

People would walk underneath it and "break their caps" in honour of the icon.

Our Ukrainian poet Taras Shevchenko did this and was upset when he saw some proud Polish students refuse to do this.

Later that night, he wrote a few lines about this and said.

"Those Polish students who wouldn't break their hats to the Most Holy Mother of God of Ostra Brama . . . but you can always tell a fool by the way he walks!"

Alex

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Health remedies were given to Abbess Hildegard von Bingen, in the twelth century by Christ or his angels. She was declared a prophetiess by Pope Eugenius III along with other church officials. In this particular vision and angel appeared to her and told her about the mixture of herbs called 'Heart Wine.'

"A German doctor writing in the 800s said 1-3 tablespoons of this a day would blow away pains of the heart caused by weather or excitement. He continues not only for slight pain in the heart, but also for cardiac weakness and real heart trouble, this parsley-honey wine will do you a great service, and maybe even bring recovery."
Copied from Miracle Food Cures of the Bible by Reese Dubin, Prentice Hall Press

The wine is made from a good red or white wine.
However, the red seems to have more medicinal purpose. My husband buys the really big bottle of Rianuti Lambrusco (sp).

Red Wine Vinegar
Honey
Parsley

Place these in a well cleaned pot
Use 1 liter - about a quart - of pure wine
Add 2 table spoons of red wine vinegar
10 fresh parsley stems

This is simmered for 10 minutes on low heat. My husbands lets his come to a very light boil. Take care not to let it spill over, because it foams, though he has never really had trouble with that.

Then add 300 grams or about 10 1/2 ounces of honey.
Let it boil again on a low boil for 4 minutes.

While still hot, strain, and place in a bottle that has been throughly cleaned with alcohol. Deacon Stan just places it back in the bottle the wine came from.

He sometimes comes out with more volume than other times and I think that must be the freshness of the parsley because all other factors are the same.

There is a sediment that forms sometimes and it can be eaten with honey.

Whether you use red or white wine the sequence of preparation must remain the same.


This has helped our whole family in different ways. I get a lot of pain in my knees and it helps that knee pain. Our daughter can tell when her sugar gets out of whack and it seems to put her back in order. My dad has had major heart surgery and it really gives him a boost. And needless to say, Deacon Stan - being a mail carrier - really tells the differnce with all of this heat. He has a bunch of folks at work using it too.

With Alex's knowledge of the Heart Wine and it's relation to the feasts of the Church, I am even more encouraged by it.

Hope it helps.

Pani Rose

Alex,

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Dear Pani,

This sounds like one of several medieval concoctions (that one person I know is now selling under his own patent called "Norfolk Punch").

He found it in the wall of former Benedictine monastery . . .

The monks developed these concoctions to help them with everything from heart pains, to kidney disease and arthritic pains to nervous disorders, insomnia and even calming sexual passion - Norfolk Punch contains about 18 different herbs and spices and tastes like, well, punch.

It is great when served piping hot . . .

As I'm sure the heart wine is too!

To your health!

Alex

Hey Alex,

Where is the 'Honey Saviour' Icon? I was gonna show it to someone!

By the way you have a lovely family crest

Pani Rose

Please note here that unprocessed...IE non-heated, but spun/centrifugally processed is acceptable. The pasteurization process is a bastardization of the natural product, akin to the 'cider' you buy in the store, which is now just apple juice, for they have dictated that it must now be de-naturalized, and if you keep it, it will just sour, and not ferment. (part of the food industry debacle in us..!). As a Ukrainian friend told me , you don't have 'real' food here, just stuff in a box or a can, that looks like the real thing. No wonder there is so much cancer, depression, athasma, etc...and so much obesity. (the new 'victim' status..). OH, I could on, and on, but , we of the hippie generation have been hearing of this for 40+ years. Just a few pennies worth, mik s Bohom