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woah i cant belive this i mean that is rediculas
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Wondering, you answered my burning question about the children perfectly. No need to worry now. Carole, come on? You afraid of alittle artic wind?Good for the sinuses and cleans up the environment, don't be a wuss. The second video makes me wonder whose side Fr. Brown is working for. The smoke of satan has truly entered that parish. Words have power...
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Originally posted by indigo: Carole, come on? You afraid of alittle artic wind?Good for the sinuses and cleans up the environment, don't be a wuss. Oh but I am a wuss! A big ol' Southern wuss. Yankee by birth. Southern by the grace of God! I like my snow-free winters.
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Originally posted by Deacon Lance: Are these people all on dope?! I am truly speechless. I couldn't get the 'Halloween Mass' video to download until today...so just viewed it. I know it is rare for me...but I, too, am speechless. Porter
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It really aggravates me going to Masses like this and being It really aggravates me going to Masses like this and being under the pain of sin to have to attend them. Why would anyone show their approval by staying in attendance at such an abomination. It's hard to understand "... and being under the pain of sin to have to attend them" would not even enter anyone's mind.
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Originally posted by DAVIDinVA: Look on the bright side, at least the female Euch. Minsiter wearing the devil horns has her head covered...that's a start I laughed at your joke, but the whole spectacle of that "Halloween Mass" was a travesty. It is just another "clown mass," which is based on "clown theology." The trouble comes from a failure to accept (or realize?) that church isn't a place for clowning around. Church is for the worship of Almighty God. The whole clown mentality towards religion disgusts me. Lord have mercy ! -- John
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I'm saddened, sick at heart, horrified, but not surprised.
About 38 years ago, my pastor told me privately that "in the future you will not be able to trust your parish priest because of the direction that the seminaries are going." He continued, "You will have to know the Faith and teach it to your children yourself."
Understand that he left me that day in a state of shock. I've turned this thought over and over during the ensuing years as I've watched events of this type unfold in almost every parish I've ever been part of.
In this man's own parish he had one young assistant come out vested one Sunday in what looked like a "coat of many colors": a material like bath towels with little cotton balls lining the entire perimeter--they flopped all over with his every move. It was so distracting that no one even made a response; we were all in shock--the liturgical changes were very new and we hadn't yet lost all sense of the sacred.
Of less shock value, but still unsettling, is the regular practice of priests who think they need to get a smile or a little laugh out of someone they are close to--altar servers at the lavabo, couples bringing their babies for baptism, or those who come to be married--to make them less nervious in a solemn, sacred situation. Those little "flip" comments that no one else can hear but which people can see make the idea that this is not so serious a business we are in--it's simply a ritual we do to make us closer together as a community.
I wondered lately when my son--who has remained faithful despite many of these experiences--told me that, after his experience with his "children's Mass" at Catholic school each week and his confirmation retreat experience where the group spent the night making fun of the teachers and the process, he had seriously thought about leaving the Church and giving up on this person, Christ, that no one seemed to take seriously.
He also admits that it is only the serious example and teaching--by word and lived example--that caused him to stay the course. He now lives in a place where there is a group of people between the ages of 18 and 35 who meet weekly to share their faith. There are 12 people and a priest; no one belongs to the same parish--they all come from different places and have no one else their own age in the parishes they hail from. Sad commentary.
Some ask, "Where is God?" He's in the back of the church crying.
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This example reminds me of the comment atrributed to St. John Chrysostom:
Thousands and thousands of people crowd the churches, and of those thousands only a few hundred understand what is going on, and of those few hundred only a handful take that knowledge and attain their salvation.
Maybe this sort of thing is allowed to happen to bring the true believers out. It sure makes me want to go back to the sources to check myself and my own practice and example.
BOB
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What is really sad to me is the silence from those with authority...
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As I've expressed before, there will be no disciplinary action in Orange County or LA as long as the current hierarchy holds the cathedral chair. 
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Hi, Here is the answer from Lesa Truxaw, Director of Liturgy for the Diocese of Orange. Thank you for your concern. The diocese of Orange is aware of the video clip and what is seen is not in adherence to the Liturgical norms and guidelines for our Diocese. Be assured that the matter is being handled. Not much, but something. I know Lesa has been out of the office recently, that explains the delay in her response. Shalom, Memo
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The priest has issued a written apology for all of this. Check it out.
Small, small, baby steps. Maybe.
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So that's it? No defrockment? No consequences of any sort? "Hey, it's OK, I apologize for the fact that I got caught desecrating the Eucharist"
Sad.....
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I have reservations and do not think that any real consequences will occur...what is really sad is no mention of apologizing to the Lord...
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