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Since I was publicly dressed-down by the Admin. in another thread for my post about the Catholic/Zen religious, I will reply publicly. If this is my last post, then so be it. Originally posted by the Admin.: Isaac,
An asbestos suit is something you will need if you continue in this manner. We can find men and women in both Catholicism and Orthodoxy who have not kept the Faith and, indeed, have crossed into heresy.
Are you really suggesting that the criteria for determining the true faith is how well individual members of that faith keep it? Actually, that was the point of the post - the 14 religious referenced have not officially crossed into heresy, nor are they considered heretics of any sort - they each remain members in good standing with their 11 respective religious orders, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Catholic Communion as a whole. Which is why I included the 27 web-links in the original post as supporting evidence of the above point, and which I am sure the Admin. examined in the 9 minutes and 49 seconds that elapsed between my initial post and his response. Isaac
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Isaac,
But what was the point of all of that? Peace in Christ,
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No Issac,
Your dressing down as you call it is well deserved. We are responding to numerous complaints by many posters on the Forum that feel you are on a Roman Catholic bashing campaign and that the tone that is implied in these posts are seen as such. As of late you have only posted in regards to the negative about the Roman Catholic Church. While it has its ills (and all churches do), crusaders generally are ignored after a while and most times dismissed as cranks. If you notice fewer and fewer posters are responding to you.
If you want to be heard and have response I strongly suggest you change you tactic and style. If not you will go around totally ignored as is starting to happen. The choice is yours, but if the campaign continues, you may be invited to do it elsewhere. Take this for what it is.
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Originally posted by JSMelkiteOrthodoxy: Isaac,
But what was the point of all of that? Peace in Christ,
Joe Joe, In the original thread started by SAHMommy, she states she was raised Catholic and expressed doubt about remaining an Eastern Orthodox catechumen. She asked for examples of differences in doctrine, practices, and beliefs between the two. I was attempting to illustrate for her some of those differences in light of actual present practice. Nothing theoretical or ancient history, but simply what is present practice in at least some portions of 11 religious orders within the Roman Catholic Church and with which, depending on her prayerful choice, she could find herself in communion with. In the post previous to mine, Gordo spoke (quite eloquently) of how �Rome has stood faithfully and taken prophetic and authoritative positions on a whole host of issues.� My aim was to illustrate the discrepancy in stated belief and actual practice, as exemplified in current Roman Catholic religious life. Perhaps my tone left something to be desired, who knows (I freely admit I find it difficult to be respectful of such nonsense or those who engage in it). Tone aside, everything I posted with supporting links was factual, and as you�ll note, has not been addressed, nor do I expect it to be, it being much simpler to castigate me for my tone, crusading attitude, etc. ~Isaac
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Yes Issac,
Especially when some of the material that you are dredging up is several years old (oh! but you neglect to point that out) if not here in some other posts and threads started in the last several weeks. Yet you do not bring any supporting evidence that the problem is current and still exists or is not being addressed. You only present that which can be seen as the worst in the Church.
Either cease the campaign or go elsewhere either by your choice or the administration's. Do not try to smear the administrator's into being accomplices in these issues. That in itself is a clear violation of the Forum rules, something that you have been warned about in the past.
Again this is a final warning!
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Fr. Anthony,
Actually, as far as I was able to ascertain, all 14 of the religious I referenced are still alive, well, and practicing Zen Catholics. I listed well over a score of links showing that the "problem" is current - Fr. Jaeger's latest book only came out three months ago and I provided a link to it as well as to where he was ordered to cease publication!
Nevertheless - do not let me upset you or others any further with unpleasant facts. Please close my account and I will go in peace.
~Isaac
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Isaac,
Your request to close your account is hereby granted. To reapply to this forum will require an honest and contrite public apology by you. Until such time do not consider reapplying. Good luck in your ventures.
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