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Dear Afraates,
Thanks for the plug! Just to be clear, we aren't in business yet. We hope in our fondest hopes to be open this coming fall, if the state approves our application and if we are able to secure some funding. Nevertheless, those in the Chicago area can join us in evening non-credit seminars, which will be held this spring on Tuesday nights in Aurora, IL, covering, I believe, St. Athanasius and the Cappadocians.
Send me a note at news@transfigurationcollege.org if you want more info, and please pray for us!
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Dr. Schudt?
Well, if we get some kids from the byzcath forums then we WILL be in business.
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I understand that this is a start. Under liturgical languages, I would suggest Church Slavonic. Also the Church History sections need beefing up.
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Also the Church History sections need beefing up. I agree strongly with this statement.
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If you gentlemen can find out how to extend the day to 48 hours each. . . .
It is a very full program, as you can see. Unless we wish to make it 5 or 6 years long, we needed to make some decisions on what to include and what not to include. That's why there's no slavonic--no time!
Nevertheless, why in particular do you think there needs to be more Church history? We do cover writers from the entire 2000 years of the Church. Have we omitted something you think we shouldn't have?
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Nevertheless, why in particular do you think there needs to be more Church history? We do cover writers from the entire 2000 years of the Church. Have we omitted something you think we shouldn't have? Before I comment, please do not get defensive. I cannot image any course on church history without: "The Tale of Bygone Years", which outlines the conversion of Rus, and also includes St. Hilarion's Sermon and excerpts from the Pecherska Lavra's Lives of the Saints. An excellent English version was published in the late 1960's and used in many courses in Slavic Studies. These specific excerts have been re-published in other books. I am sorry I do not have my copy available at the moment; it is at my parent's house. Also Khomyakov's essay "The Church is One."
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Dear Orest,
Could you get me publishing info, ISBNs, etc?
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Dear Afraates,
I can't speak for Messr. Gilbert, but I think the reasons books like Norwich's history wouldn't be on the required reading list (what you read on your own time is of course up to you) is that they aren't "Great Books." They aren't classics that have had a huge impact on the on-going discussion of how one goes about living as a human being.
I've read about half of Aristotle East and West, and think that it is an interesting book, but that the time would be better spent on Aristotle.
As far as the history of Orthodoxy, 1054 and all that, we'll be studying some primary sources. You'll be able, after completing our course, to make a pretty good judgment about whether these history books are fair.
We want to avoid, as much as possible, any textbooks. As C.S. Lewis put it. why read a textbook by a mediocrity when one can read a book by a genius?
Anyway, given that my involvement in drafting the curriculum was somewhat secondary, the man to ask is Professor Gilbert.
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Nevertheless, why in particular do you think there needs to be more Church history? We do cover writers from the entire 2000 years of the Church. Have we omitted something you think we shouldn't have?
I cannot image any course on church history without:
"The Tale of Bygone Years", which outlines the conversion of Rus, and also includes St. Hilarion's Sermon and excerpts from the Pecherska Lavra's Lives of the Saints.
An excellent English version was published in the late 1960's and used in many courses in Slavic Studies. These specific excerts have been re-published in other books. I am sorry I do not have my copy available at the moment; it is at my parent's house.
Also Khomyakov's essay "The Church is One." I am at home for Christmas and have found the book I mentioned previoulsy: Medieval Russia�s Epics, Chronicles, and Tales. Ed. Serge A. Zenkovsky. New York: E. P. Dutton & Co., 1974. ISBN: 0-525-47363-7 I bought my copy second hand and it is the second edition in paperback. It is still available on Ammazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Medieval-Russ.../002-1435337-9022460?ie=UTF8&s=booksProduct Details � Paperback: 544 pages � Publisher: Plume; Rei edition (May 1, 1974) � Language: English � ISBN-10: 0452010861 � ISBN-13: 978-0452010864 Excerpts from this book will fit into your scheme of using primary sources. And everything is in English. 1) excerpts from the Primary Chroniclepp. 43-77 Chrsitianization of Rus. 2) excerpts from sermons and didactic works: pp. 85-92. 3) excerpts of hagiography from the Pecherska Lavra: pp. 101- 147.
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