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Dear Amado,

Then you'd be wrong again . . . wink

Husar's title was "Major Archbishop of L'viv."

When he moved to Kyiv, he automatically changed it to "Major Archbishop of Kyiv-Halych" (the old title for Metropolitans of Kyiv).

So that rule doesn't apply to someone who changed his title AFTER making the move, does it?

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Dear Alex:

That "change" is valid as it is to the "traditional" and historical title of the chief hierarch of UGCC.

This is entirely different from the "issue" of elevating UGCC to a Patriarchate, which Rome has been sitting on until today.

The Eastern Code eminently recognizes the historical origins of each Church sui juris.

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Dear Amado,

The UGCC should hire you as its legal counsel!!

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Back to the proposal to invite all the heads of the Churches for lunch - could the Holy Father be convinced to serve the Imperial Torte for desert? With a little advance planning perhaps we could convince the Melkites to provide some superb whipped cream (straight from Melk Abbey).

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Dear Incognitus,

Add to that some "kapusta," and all the uptight guests will really loosen up a bit . . .

Things will become more free-flowing . . .

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Is that what religion is all about? Politics.
No wonder our Blessed Mother appears to poor innocent children, not head of churches or state

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Dear Little Green Coat you said:

Is that what religion is all about? Politics.
No wonder our Blessed Mother appears to poor innocent children, not head of churches or state

And I say:

No, can't you see it's all about having a great Italian lunch with a little Pate de Foia Gras thrown in.

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Dear Drewmeister you said:

Who says we the RC should conform to the EO on the Filioque? We aren't going to reject a teaching of our Church just for unity. It isn't worth it.

I say:

You're right in one sense. If the concepts behind the Filioque are agreed on, there is no reason to remove it. Actually they can never be agreed on fully because languages are different, and that concept is what should be agreed on.

As for the Orthodox Church, it has always stated it was not the dogma's but rather the 'arrogance' in making something dogma that they were against.

Now if one were to take it from an Orthodox point of view, seeing themselves as the Church, and then seeing a branch of that Church, (the Latin one), taking it upon themselves to make up their own dogma's, then it can be frightening. Frightening because they see the possibility of that branch falling into heresy.

If on the other hand the Orthodox were to open their eyes and place themselves in the position of the Catholic Church, realizing that they were encountering heresies and that the RCC had to 'define' certain concepts in order to counter those heresies, they would understand the reason for those dogma's.

But they don't want to...and that's too bad. I say this because we cannot see what is happening in Europe and throughout the world. It has become a post Christian world. I see no way that this can be undone unless there is unity between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches. If they were united, then maybe our Lord would bless us with the communicative talents given to other Christians, and then souls, and I mean millions upon millions of them can achieve unity with our Lord.

Zenovia

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