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I have seen that the topic of inclusive-language arises in a number of contexts on the forums. I'm appending a link to an article by Jesuit Fr. Paul Mankowitz, published in 1998 in The Thomist, and reprinted and linked, at Touchstone, entitled "Jesus, Son of Humankind?".

Fr. Mankowitz is a professor at the Pontifical Biblical Institute and a linguist, and his argument (he's agin it) is based on linguistics, as well as common sense.

I hope it can be of benefit in providing some scientific insights, as people reflect on the topic:

Jesus, Son of Humankind? [touchstonemag.com]

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Dear Michael,

Shouldn't your new post be in the Liturgics Section?

I am not allowed to comment on liturgical matters so to find your post here puts me in a real dilemma!

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I don't think so, since Fr. Mankowicz's argument deals with the topic of inclusive-language from the scientific (i.e., linguistics) point-of-view. They are intended to illustrate some of the translation issues of Liturgy and Bible, but the argument is more general than that.

However, I would bow to whatever the Administrator decides.

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Alex,

I'm sorry if I've caused a problem to you here. I was unaware of the rules applying to individuals.

If you would like to advise me as to what I should have done, and how I might effect that, my email is:

mmcdonough15@comcast.net


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The article that is cited is an excellent presentation of the problems with inclusive language. It is also bound to fail because it is a logical presentation and the issue of inclusive language is primarily emotional.

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Dear Michael,

You've caused no problem for me or for humankind! smile

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Alex,

Good.

cool You da mankind, kind mankind!

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Fr. Deacon Edward,
Originally Posted by FrDeaconEd
....It is also bound to fail because it is a logical presentation and the issue of inclusive language is primarily emotional.

Fr. Deacon Edward
No question that the issue of inclusive language is emotional. But his argument is not based on an emotion, but on the science of linguistics. That's why I thought it might be of interest.

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
I am not allowed to comment on liturgical matters so to find your post here puts me in a real dilemma!

this is strange
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Originally Posted by Michael McD
I have seen that the topic of inclusive-language arises in a number of contexts on the forums. I'm appending a link to an article by Jesuit Fr. Paul Mankowitz, published in 1998 in The Thomist, and reprinted and linked, at Touchstone, entitled "Jesus, Son of Humankind?".

Fr. Mankowitz is a professor at the Pontifical Biblical Institute and a linguist, and his argument (he's agin it) is based on linguistics, as well as common sense.

I hope it can be of benefit in providing some scientific insights, as people reflect on the topic:

Jesus, Son of Humankind? [touchstonemag.com]

since this is probably a matter of faith and worship for byzcaths, has there been a similar presentation by those promoting it? not necessarily in byzcath worship but also in church teaching? a byzcath priest on one of the forums once wrote about how it contradicted Pope John Pauls teaching on the human body. is the promotion of inclusive language an example of rebellion against the Pope and teh cathChurch?

Eddie Hashinsky


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