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I was surprised that no one commented on this. Yesterday (June 10), being the second Sunday after Pentecost, is now the Synaxis of the Saints of Carpatho-Rus, at least in ACROD.

So all you Rusyns and Ruthenians, remember the great saints who have gone before us!

The icon for the feast is pretty cool, too!

http://www.comeandseeicons.com/groups/cap05.htm

Troparion (Tone 8)
As a beautiful fruit of the sowing of Your salvation, the land of Carpatho-Rus offers to You, O Lord, all the saints that have shone in it. By their prayers, keep the church and our homeland in deep peace, through the Mother of God, O Most Merciful One.

Holy Father & Confessor Alexis of Hust
Holy Martyr Ludmilla
Holy Martyr Maxim of Gorlice
Holy Father & Confessor Alexis of Wilkes-Barre
St. Rostislavy Prince of Moravia
St. Ephrem of New Torzhok
Holy Martyr Wenceslaus
St. Procopius Abbot of Sazava
St. Moses the Hungarian
Holy Hieromartyr Gorazd of Prague
St. Cyril Equal to the Apostles
St. Methodius Equal to the Apostles

(take from that Come and See webpage)

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Metropolitan Nicholas often includes Blessed Theodore Romzha and Holy Confessor Pavel Gojdich to that list as well.

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Dear Friends,

The Second Sunday after Pentecost celebrates the Synaxis of many local and national Saints e.g. All Saints of Rus', All Saints of Mt Athos, All Saints of North America (Orthodox) etc.

It is analogous to the Western feasts of local groups of Saints, especially of Religious Orders, in the month of November following All Saints' Day (November 1) - the feast of All Saints of Ireland on November 6th.

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Dear Friends,

Just wondering why the Synaxis of All Saints of Carpatho-Rus' does not include the commemoration of All Saints of the Kievan Caves Lavra?

This commemoration is the Synaxis of All Saints of Russia and of Ukraine.

Is not the patrimony of the Kievan Caves Lavra part of that of Carpatho-Rus'?

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I think you're mixing things up Alex.

The Synaxis of the Saints of Russia is separate from the Synaxis of the Saints of Carpatho-Rus, as well as the Saints of North America (celebrated by the OCA).

I guess it's just the day to commemorate local-ish saints. I guess St. Alexis (Toth) of Wilkes-Barre gets double commemoration by ACROD and OCA... lucky guy! He deserves it, really.

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I believe this celebration of local saints on this Sunday is a Slavic tradition.

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The general pattern is:
1st Sunday after Pentecost: All Saints
2nd Sunday after Pentecost: All Saints of (Country/Church)
3rd Sunday after Pentecost: All Saints of (Region/City) - not as common.

Unless you are the average Slavic EC parish, then the pattern is:
1st Sunday after Pentecost: All Saints
4th Sunday after Pentecost: All Saints of (Country/Church)

Supposedly there are some other sorts of feasts between those two Sundays... whistle

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Dear Kobzar,

Yes - the New Martyrs of the Turkish Yoke are commemorated on the Third Sunday after Pentecost. But there are also All Saints of Regions in Russia commemorated throughout the year.

For example, June 23rd is St John Maximovych and All the New Martyrs of the Chinese Boxer Rebellion - appropriate since St John of Siberia translated the Liturgy into Chinese.

All Saints of Kievan Caves Lavra is on Second Sunday of the Great Fast in honour of ascetics.

Fascinating!

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Dear domilsean,

Well, I hope I'm not mixing things up!

I know that All Saints of Russia is separate etc. But the Kyivan Caves Lavra Saints had a significance that related to Eastern European Slavic Orthodoxy which is why Russia AND Ukraine both celebrate these Saints as part of their national Choir of Saints.

My question is simply - is the Carpatho-Rusyn tradition outside the scope of influence of the Kyivan Caves Lavra? And if not, why aren't these commemorated in the Carpatho-Rus' synaxis?

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I guess it's just the day to commemorate local-ish saints. I guess St. Alexis (Toth) of Wilkes-Barre gets double commemoration by ACROD and OCA... lucky guy! He deserves it, really.

One of the best things, for me, about returning to Orthodoxy myself, was I was finally able to not be ashamed of my icon of St. Alexis of Wilkes Barre... smile

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
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My question is simply - is the Carpatho-Rusyn tradition outside the scope of influence of the Kyivan Caves Lavra? And if not, why aren't these commemorated in the Carpatho-Rus' synaxis?

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This I don't know... where's that Orthodox Pyrohy? He tends to know stuff like this.

My gut feeling is that, yes, it's outside of the scope of the influence of the Kyivan Caves Lavra. I might be wrong, though. I'll ask around.

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I guess it's just the day to commemorate local-ish saints. I guess St. Alexis (Toth) of Wilkes-Barre gets double commemoration by ACROD and OCA... lucky guy! He deserves it, really.

One of the best things, for me, about returning to Orthodoxy myself, was I was finally able to not be ashamed of my icon of St. Alexis of Wilkes Barre... smile

Funny that you mention the icon of St. Alexis. The OCA parish in Warren Ohio has an icon of him with a relic attached to it. I venerated it as I was leaving the church. I could swear he smiled back at me. biggrin

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I guess it's just the day to commemorate local-ish saints. I guess St. Alexis (Toth) of Wilkes-Barre gets double commemoration by ACROD and OCA... lucky guy! He deserves it, really.

One of the best things, for me, about returning to Orthodoxy myself, was I was finally able to not be ashamed of my icon of St. Alexis of Wilkes Barre... smile

Funny that you mention the icon of St. Alexis. The OCA parish in Warren Ohio has an icon of him with a relic attached to it. I venerated it as I was leaving the church. I could swear he smiled back at me. biggrin

He smiled because he knows a good Greek Catholic when he sees one.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:D

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He smiled because he knows a good Greek Catholic when he sees one.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:D

Good one! But remember after he was so mistreated by the Latins that his mission became to convert the Rusyns back to Orthodoxy... and that he was quite successful.

Maybe he smiled because he saw a potential convert? wink

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He smiled because he knows a good Greek Catholic when he sees one.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:D

Good one! But remember after he was so mistreated by the Latins that his mission became to convert the Rusyns back to Orthodoxy... and that he was quite successful.

Maybe he smiled because he saw a potential convert? wink

He saw one who converted 7 months ago! grin

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