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#240850 06/21/07 08:14 AM
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By now, it is apparent to everyone on this forum that inclusive language was adopted for our reformed Liturgy. The word "men" has been deleted from the Creed and our Savior is no longer referred to as "The Lover of Mankind". And it is fairly unanimous that no one here is in favor of it. Personally, the "kumbaya" phrase that appears consistently throughout this reformation is "loves us all". My heart sinks every time I have to hear this invented p.c. language. On page 95 of the "Thanksgiving Prayers After Holy Communion", the "Prayer of Our Holy Father Basil the Great" has also been neutralized.

The third sentence reads: " O Lord who love us all, you died and rose for our sake..."

Lord have mercy. St Basil pray for us.

Here is my question:

At Psalm 103 for Great Vespers we read these verses:

You make the grass grow for the cattle
and the plants to serve man's needs.

that he may bring forth bread from the earth
and wine to cheer man's heart;

oil to make his face shine
and bread to strengthen man's heart.

I understand that the Psalms are taken from (The Grail, 1963)and they are not neutralized.

How do the reformers explain the lack of consistency?

If as Fr Petras claims, there was a substantial voice in the BCC clamouring for inclusive language, there must be a substantial number of clergy and people who are offended by the wording of the Psalms (and many other places in Scripture).

Recluse #240924 06/21/07 02:35 PM
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BTW--If anyone is interested in a truly beautiful translation of the "Prayer of Our Holy Father Basil the Great" reagrding "Thanksgiving Prayers After Holy Communion";

Here it is:


Glory to thee, O God; Glory to thee, O God; Glory to thee, O God.

I thank thee, O Lord my God, that thou hast not rejected me, a sinner, but hast accounted me worthy to become a communicant of thy Holy Mysteries. I thank thee that thou hast accounted me, the unworthy, worthy to partake of thine immaculate and heavenly gifts. But, O Master who lovest mankind, who didst both die for us and rise again, and didst bestow upon us these thy terrible and life-giving Mysteries for the benefitting and sanctification of our souls and bodies: grant that they may be for me also unto the healing of soul and body, unto the averting of everything contrary thereto; unto the enlightenment of the eyes of my heart; unto the peace of my spiritual powers; unto faith invincible; unto love unfeigned; unto fulfilling of wisdom; unto the keeping of thy commandments; unto growth in thy divine grace, and the attainment of thy kingdom: that by them preserved in thy holiness, I may ever remember thy grace, and henceforth live not unto myself, but unto thee, our Master and Benefactor. And thus, when this life is ended, in the hope of eternal life, I may attain unto everlasting rest, where the voice of those who keep festival is unceasing, and the delight of those who behold the ineffable beauty of thy countenance is boundless; for thou art the true desire and unutterable joy of all those who love thee, O Christ our God, and all creation hymneth thee forever. Amen.


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