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Please rate each of the areas in isolation from the other areas.
For instance, you might like the design and layout of the new people's book while you do not care for the textual or musical changes within it. The poll allows for these nuances.
I am in favor of the RDL\'s new text. (6%, 7 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL\'s new text. (18%, 21 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL\'s new text. (5%, 6 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new text. (16%, 18 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new text. (55%, 63 Votes)
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I am in favor of the RDL\'s new music. (9%, 10 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL\'s new music. (13%, 14 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL\'s new music. (8%, 9 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new music. (8%, 9 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new music. (63%, 70 Votes)
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I am in favor of the RDL\'s new rubrics. (6%, 7 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL\'s new rubrics. (10%, 11 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL\'s new rubrics. (16%, 18 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new rubrics. (6%, 7 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new rubrics. (62%, 69 Votes)
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I am in favor of the RDL\'s new people\'s books. (11%, 12 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL\'s new people\'s books. (14%, 15 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL\'s new people\'s book. (12%, 13 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new people\'s books. (13%, 14 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL\'s new people\'s books. (51%, 57 Votes)
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I am in favor of the RDL\'s implementation. (5%, 6 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL\'s implementation. (8%, 9 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL\'s implementation. (13%, 14 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL\'s implementation. (5%, 6 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL\'s implementation. (68%, 75 Votes)
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I am in favor of the RDL as a whole. (8%, 9 Votes)
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There are a few things I am not happy with, but overall I am in favor of the RDL as a whole. (9%, 10 Votes)
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I am neutral or do not have an opinion on the RDL as a whole. (8%, 9 Votes)
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There are a few things I am happy with, but overall I am not in favor of the RDL as a whole. (9%, 10 Votes)
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I am not in favor of the RDL as a whole. (66%, 73 Votes)
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I'm sure we all know the outcome of this poll.  Maybe someone should forward the results to the Archeparchial Chancery office? Ungcsertezs
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TSK - let's wait and see what happens
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It has only been 3 hours and we already have 16 votes.
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If we (Ruthenian Metropolia) had a Sobor, maybe this could have been a referendum ballot! Ungcsertezs 
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Anybody surprised at the results so far?
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Anybody surprised at the results so far?
Ungcsertezs Yes, by the low number of responses so far.
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Can we predict the winners like they do in the elections after a few hours....?
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Anybody surprised at the results so far?
Ungcsertezs Actually, the results are exactly what one should expect for a bulletin board run by anti RDL camps. The results are much as one could expect if asking Republicans at a convention what their feelings about the Democratinc party are. No surprises there..... To consider using the results of such biased polling (biased because the very ownership of the forum is biased) would not be particularly useful since it also can't be shown to be a truly represenatitve cross section of the Pittsburgh Metropolia. Just a thought
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Steve,
Are you implying that those who run this Forum would influence this poll, or stifle any pro-RDL comments here? When last I looked there were some 'pro' votes on this particular survey.
I agree that just about any internet-based poll won't be truly representative, but unless someone is proposing to run (and fund!) a proper, un-biased (run by 'outsiders') survey of parishioners, this is the best you'll get.
Will the results of this particular poll influence the Council of Hierarchs? No way. But maybe it will be yet one more straw on the camel's back...
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Last I saw, this was the Byzantine Forum BB. Nowhere does it say that this is the anti-RDL BB, pro-RDL BB, etc...
Why the comparison to the Republicans? Just because the vote is not going your way, does that mean it is a vast right-wing conspiracy? Seems like the typical left-wing response. (BTW, I am not Republican, so don't respond to me as if I am...)
Unfortunately it is the few that has decided to speak for the whole in regards to the RDL.
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I have not voted yet for the simple fact that I haven't experienced the new RDL yet. I have heard the initial broadcast from Parma and was not impressed. But that, and looking through a copy of the book, is my only direct, personal experience with the RDL. Last week my priest used the same books we have been using. I will find out this Saturday if we have the new books. I have not asked him about the new books, nor do I intend to. Let sleeping dogs lie....
I just don't feel it is right to vote when I haven't actually experienced the RDL yet.
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Actually, the results are exactly what one should expect for a bulletin board run by anti RDL camps. Oh my. I did not know that this was the anti-RDL camp! since it also can't be shown to be a truly represenatitve cross section of the Pittsburgh Metropolia. Interesting perspective. Most people I have spoken to in the Pgh Metropolia(not members of this forum) are not in favor of the reformation of our Liturgy, rubrics, music, and implementation. And so it seems to be a valid representative cross section. Just a thought.
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It is a given that this board represents a sub-group within the Metropolia. Only people who are passionate about their church and faith would seek out an online message board to discuss it with others.
Since we are the most passionate, by and large, it is also understood that we are more likely to have opinions on issues relevant to the church. Our opinions are also more likely to be researched and informed than the average parishioner's.
So should our opinion be brushed aside as the vocal online minority's? I don't think so. We are the movers and shakers in our parish communities. The people who are vocal in our lives and are able to educate and influence. Whether we are in favor or against, we have informed opinions and the lived experiences to make our voices small but meaningful representations of how this revision is and will affect the Church.
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It is also interesting that most of those involved with this reformation and those in favor of the RDL either are not originally Byzantine Catholic or Carpatho Rusyn (for the most part, there are those in traverse in favor...)
I see that Prof. Thompson is a registered user on this board, did he happen to vote? There is a definite vote yes...
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