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Very nice! Some really nice prostopinije! Especially the hymn at 6:34.

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The hymn at 6:34 is the troparion of Theodore Romzha (in tone 8) followed by tone 4 prokimenon.

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Anyone know who composed the Moleben? Dr. Alex maybe?

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Glory to Jesus Christ!

The Moleben to Bl. Theodore Romzha was published in both Church Slavonic and in modern Ukrainian by the Bl. Theodore Romzha Theological Academy in Uzhgorod, Ukraine. It was composed by a seminarian of the academy.

Prof. J. Michael Thompson
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I guess that means it can't be used in the Pittsburgh Metropolia! biggrin

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The Troparion at 6:34 is the Troparion of Pentecost "Blahosloven jesi, Christe Boze nas...."

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Chtec,

I humbly stand corrected! You are correct. blush blush

I realised that this is the Moleben to the Holy Spirit. Somewhere else I have the Moleben to Thodore Romzha!

When I goof, I goof big!

Steve,
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The moleben to Thodore Romzha was done later at the seminary during the conference if I recall correctly. The week went by in a blur with so many things going on and I having a really bad case of jet lag.

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What is a Moleben? Is it a type of prayer book?

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Terry,

A moleben is a short prayer service. In this case it starts with the usual prayers like the beginning of vespers: "O Heavenly King", "Holy God" [3x], "Our Father", "Lord have mercy" [12x], "Glory to the Father...Amen", "Come let us worhsip our King and our God", Psalm 33, Troparion, Prokimenon, "The Lord is God and has revealed Himself" to us alternated with its verses, Announcing of the Gospel reading, Gospel reading, A short litany with particular intentions, A longish prayer, then the dismissal- "More Honorable than the Cherubim..", "Glory to You O Christ our God...", "Glory to the Father...Amen", Final blessing...Amen

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The Moleben is a loose adaptation of Matins and comes from the Pannachys celebrated on the vigils for major feastdays.

Generally Psalm 142 comes after the "usual beginning prayers", then "God is the Lord", Troparia, etc. A Canon is sometimes added after Psalm 50 with the Gospel coming after Ode Six if the Canon is taken.

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Thus may belong as a seperate topic, but I await the administrators; or PM me.

I've often wondered about something. I preface this by saying that some sources I have seen suggest that typica is especially for Lent, so I'm looking for opinions; shoudl Moleben be said more than it is? Do Orhtodox parishes without preists say typica every week as a reader service, or does paraklesis/moleben/something similar take its place? I know the old believer and Catholic practice is to include typica, but just wondering.

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