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John,
Please accept my apology in the name of most Roman Catholics for the rude and unchristian way in which you were treated. I can only remind you that we are not a museum of saints, just a hospital for sinners. I pray that you will be able to forgive and pray for the offenders
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I'm dating a Roman Catholic woman, so I know not all Roman Catholics are bad.  My beef is with the Society of St. Pius X types who are stuck in an era when being Roman Catholic was the only way to be fully Catholic.
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A few years ago the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch and the Syriac Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch reached an historic agreement on sharing the Holy Mysteries and refraining from "conversions" from either to the other, so to speak.
Very close to the end of the agreement, almost as an afterthought, is a provision that they should no longer re-baptize one another's faithful.
Fr. Serge Do you have a link to somewhere where I could read more about this agreement?
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I'm dating a Roman Catholic woman, so I know not all Roman Catholics are bad. My beef is with the Society of St. Pius X types who are stuck in an era when being Roman Catholic was the only way to be fully Catholic. The SSPX folks aren't even Catholic, so you can freely leave them aside.  Peace and God bless!
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I'm dating a Roman Catholic woman, so I know not all Roman Catholics are bad. My beef is with the Society of St. Pius X types who are stuck in an era when being Roman Catholic was the only way to be fully Catholic. The SSPX folks aren't even Catholic, so you can freely leave them aside. Peace and God bless! Agreed. If you want a good idea about their worldview - look up the Society of St. Josaphat and the Transalpine Redemptorists - two groups they support that are working hard to fight for the "Traditions of the Greek Catholics." Like Stations of the Cross and pre-Litrugy Rosary. I think that speaks volumes.
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I don't doubt that the intention of the compilers of that catechism was to produce one for the whole Church. But that's not what they did.
As for being "binding", nobody would claim that the catechism is a supreme act of the supreme magisterium!
Fr. Serge The Catechism of the Catholic Church is actually the "Catechism of the Catholic Church as explained by Latins", IMO. It's not truly "Catholic" (but then what truly is?), but neither is it "Latin only" in the sense of only applying to the Latins. That's my sentiment, anyway. Thoughts? Personally I'm greatly looking forward to the Catechisms being produced by particular Eastern Churches. Peace and God bless! I must respectfully correct you. There were Eastern Catholics who were involved in the writing of the CCC, so it cannot be said that the CCC was "explained by Latins". Here is a site [ rumkatkilise.org] on the contributions of Fr. Jean Corbon, a Greek Melkite priest, to the CCC. God bless!
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Certainly there are "touches" of Eastern theology in the Latin Church's catechism, but anyone who thinks that the Catechism of the Catholic Church is a balanced treatment of the faith (i.e., presenting Eastern and Western tradition equally) is fooling himself.
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Amen, et iterum dico: Amen!
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There were Eastern Catholics who were involved in the writing of the CCC, so it cannot be said that the CCC was "explained by Latins". You are absolutely correct, and I apologize if I gave the impression that there was no Eastern involvement. My point is that the CCC, while a universal Catholic document, is primarily "the Catholic Faith as explained through Latin theology". It definitely incorporates elements of Eastern teaching, and parts of it were compiled by Easterners, but it's definitely "Latin" in its over all treatment. That being said I don't think that's necessarily a problem at all. I don't believe it's possible to write a Catechism that faithfully incorporates all the nuances of the various Catholic traditions. When a work is intended for a universal audience (and I believe the CCC is; it is NOT merely a document for Latins though it is a primarily Latin document) it must be written in some language and theological tradition. Given the composition of the Catholic Church it only makes sense that it was written through a Latin lens with Eastern input. The purpose of the CCC is ultimately to encourage similar works by all the Catholic traditions/Churches, so that this same universal Faith can be expressed through the lenses of the other authentic traditions as well. The CCC still belongs to all of us as Catholics. Peace and God bless!
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Amen!
BTW, does anyone know when the UGCC Catechism is coming out?
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