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Originally Posted by Serge Keleher
"typical Church in Syrian style" - does that apply to the light bulbs on top of the fake candlesticks?

On the plus side, it would clearly be impossible to serve the Luturgy "facing the people" at this altar.

Fr. Serge

I don't like electric candles/lampadas either, but they seem widespread these days. Even your Church is not immune from them.

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How true Deacon Philip, I went to light candles for my brother and wife & found those electronic thingies which really dampened a already sullen mood...

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Originally Posted by Jakub.
How true Deacon Philip, I went to light candles for my brother and wife & found those electronic thingies which really dampened a already sullen mood...

james

Interesting that you would mention the electric candles. The RC cathedral church in town has just re-opened after a year-long renovation caused by - you guessed it - a fire in the electric candles. It's ironic that they bought those because they thought they would be safer than real candles.

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They still request a $2.00 donation per electro-candle... frown

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ps...do electro-bees exist ?

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Originally Posted by Jakub.
They still request a $2.00 donation per electro-candle... frown

james

ps...do electro-bees exist ?


YES! And you have to be careful about the africanized ones... they are hive-voltage!

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Originally Posted by Jakub.
How true Deacon Philip, I went to light candles for my brother and wife & found those electronic thingies which really dampened a already sullen mood...

james


I have noted that a number of new-build churches have created a semi-enclosed outdoor shrine for votives. In California I attended a Latin parish that I could walk to (I had no car) that had just such an outdoor shrine. The very nice thing about it was that it could be visited at any hour, and was visible to passers-by.

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YES! And you have to be careful about the africanized ones... they are hive-voltage!
A swarm can light a village for a year.


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Dear Father Deacon,

I am happy to assure you that my Church does not now use, and has never used, electric candles!

But I remember the time that another parish priest, whom I shall not name, had just installed new, expensive, "indoor-outdoor carpeting" for the Altar and Soleas, of all places, and thoughtfully (albeit stupidly) fitted up a set of dikerotrikera with those gas-jet fake candles so that the Bishop, when visiting, would not get any wax on this plastic carpeting. I was wickedly hoping that His Grace would simply drop the dikerotrikera - but the Bishop, who was older and more merciful than I was, kept a firm hand on them!

Long ago, in my first parish, some fool suggested that we should have artificial Xmas trees. The Deacon responded that perhaps we should sing artificial carols too, and that was the end of that idea.

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Father bless!

Funny thing about electric candles in the Syro-Indian context... normally the Syro Tradition is to have 12 candles on the altar - sometimes this means 6 real - 6 electric, sometimes 3 real - 9 electric, sometimes all real no electric.. in any situation, real candles are used at some point.

Although, these photos may be misleading.. I was watching a youtube video of an Easter Qurbono at the Indian Orthodox church and it seemed to me that the altar candles were electric... until a slight gust shook the flames in one direction in unison.. unless these electric candles were really good fakes?!

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Anything is possible. A priest-friend who will here be nameless once installed impressive indoor-outdoor carpeting in his church. He then discovered that getting wax off that stuff is almost impossible.

I was visiting him for Easter (as distinct from Pascha). In order to keep the wax off the carpeting, Father X announced that they would light the processional candles outside. He wasn't counting on the breezes.

Raising up his candle, nicely lit, Father sang out: "Come ye then, and take light from the light that never fades" WHOOSH! at that point, a sudden gust of wind extinguished Father's candle.

Nothing daunted, he lit it again, raised it up and sang out "Come ye then and take light " WHOOSH! So much for round two.

Once more, Father tried; he relit his candle, raised it up, and sang out "Come ye . . . " you guessed it: WHOOSH.

At that point Father noticed the smile on my face and announced, somewhat sheepishly: "will you all please light your own candles?"

Ah, memories of days gone by!

Fr. Serge

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