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Dear Monomakh,
I do not live in Ohio, I live in Minnesota. If you would like to talk about this issues to the Office of Evangelisation of our Eparchy, I would recommend to contact Fr. James Batcha of the Holy Spirit parish in parma - he's a head of this Office.
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Someone earlier commented that in about 4 generations the language is lost - this is a shame because so much else will be lost BUT unless you do use the language understood by the majority of the poeple born and brought up in that country you will lose them. It is a necesarry consequence of our finite resources, including time and money. If only I didn't have to sleep. A third of my life sleeping! Its ridiculous! Now to speak all of the languages that my ethnic backgrounds offer as heritage I would have needed an Imperial Hapsburg upbringing. They had a different nanny each day of the week speaking a different language to them. My nanny - my French Canadian grandmother with a fair amount of aboriginal Canadian stock - only spoke English to me. I think we deserve a refund!
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Dear Monomakh,
I do not live in Ohio, I live in Minnesota. If you would like to talk about this issues to the Office of Evangelisation of our Eparchy, I would recommend to contact Fr. James Batcha of the Holy Spirit parish in parma - he's a head of this Office. Father Ihar, I'm well aware that you live in Minnesota. Why is there not any kind of a plan that any of us are aware of? This might be something to bring up at the next clergy meeting. I'd love to hear what the plan is for evangelizing in English, Spanish, Slavonic, Ukrainian, Swahili, etc. The BCA's main problem throughout it's existence in America has been a complete lack of evangelizing. In Minnesota, is your church larger or smaller than what it was 100+ years ago when Father Toth and Archbishop Ireland had their infamous exchange of words. There should be 10-50 BCA churches in Minnesota since that time, instead there is one and it has shrunk in the last 100 years. It doesn't matter if your current parish had Slavonic, English, Spanish, or whatever, without an evangelization plan from our leaders it is what it is. I'm afraid my comments on evangelization will fall on the same deaf ears that my comments about the RDL did in the BCA. I'll bring them up with Bishop Robert Moskal of Parma since I switched over to UGCC. Monomakh
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Dear Father Ihar,
For whatever it is worth, I was just going through my clergy e-bulletin for the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese for this week (it is issued every Friday) earlier today, and could not help but notice that our Department of Outreach and Evangelism is advertising to the clergy not only the liturgical texts in Spanish, but also cathecetical resources such as The Orthodox Church. Unfortunately, I deleted it from my email server, otherwise I would have posted the links. I thought you would like to know. I believe that Antiochians and the OCA also make such resources available to their clergy. I must also add that Ukrainian Orthodox Diocese in Brazil has resources available in Spanish and Portuguese since that diocese covers countries that speak both languages.
In IC XC, Father Anthony+
Everyone baptized into Christ should pass progressively through all the stages of Christ's own life, for in baptism he receives the power so to progress, and through the commandments he can discover and learn how to accomplish such progression. - Saint Gregory of Sinai
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I'm really glad that Cyril and Methodius were able to figure this out, or I might still be painting myself blue and worshiping rocks somewhere in Karpaty!  ) Monomakh No, that would be the Celts (aka Braveheart) a few years before the Eastern Slavs settled south of the Carpathians. I don't think our East Slavic ancestors did the "painted blue" schtick!  Ungcsertezs(Svoboda!)
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My warmest regards to good Bishop Robert. Pokrova is a good place to pray - I love small churches.
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Well, I believe that if Holy brothers C&M hadn't come to Slavs, there would've been Roman Catholic Ukraine, Belarus and Muslim or Karaim Muscovy.
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Well, I believe that if Holy brothers C&M hadn't come to Slavs, there would've been Roman Catholic Ukraine, Belarus and Muslim or Karaim Muscovy. What you suggest there is no Byzantine gene in the DNA of Slavs? (Nevermininding Poland just now...) Is outrage! 
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No, the blue paint (woad) is an ethnic characteristic of the English - and they are welcome to it.
Fr. Serge
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No, we're perfectly pagan over there (except for Poland)and there is no and there never was any Holy Mother Russia or likes.
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No, the blue paint (woad) is an ethnic characteristic of the English - and they are welcome to it.
Fr. Serge Scratches head... Ahhh, so there are Englishmen at college football games up in Ann Arbor. I had always wondered...
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No, we're perfectly pagan over there (except for Poland)and there is no and there never was any Holy Mother Russia or likes. Dear Fr Ihar, Your answer might be more charitable if you added the words "in my opinion" Alexandr, a son of Holy Mother Russia
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I have no charity for the political orthodoxy, catholicism or protestantism. sorry.
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That is very sad. I will pray for you.
Alexandr
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Please, do. Thanks for that.
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