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Pelosi won't condemn 'gay' slur of Last Supper
Spokesman: 'As a Catholic, the speaker is confident that Christianity has not been harmed'
Posted: September 28, 2007
3:07 p.m. Eastern


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Participant in previous Folsom Street Fair, which features public displays of nudity and sexual fetishes
Asked to respond to a San Francisco "gay"-festival's promo mocking the Last Supper of Jesus Christ, the chief spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi offered a dismissive quip.

"As a Catholic, the speaker is confident that Christianity has not been harmed," said Drew Hammill, the San Francisco Democrat's press secretary.

WND reported earlier this week the Last Supper poster promoting the Folsom Street Fair replaces the bread and wine with sex toys and depicts Jesus Christ and his disciples as "half-naked homosexual sadomasochists."

Scheduled for Sunday, the annual sadomasochistic "leather event" features public displays of nudity and sexual acts.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57886

This type of abhorent, juvenile, sick and perverted, unrespectable and despicable behaviour is what does most harm to homosexuals...
In other words, there is no greater enemy to the homosexual than HIMSELF!

Shame on Nancy Pelosi and every other politician who allows this type of DISGUSTING mockery of our or any one else's religion...SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!!!!!!!

KYRIE ELEISON!!

Alice

(I also think that the Democrats are harming themselves VERY much with their siding with this ridiculously defamatory anti-Christian agenda...I really wish that they would give it up, so that true issues that affect citizens in this country can be addressed)

Pani Rose,

It would seem to me that anyone, Christian or otherwise, who is comfortable with this type of depiction has not been deeply touched by Christ such that his sacrifice and gift mean anything to them,otherwise this would be not just insulting but sad and painful.

What's interesting is that whether the prophet Mohammed has touched a muslim's heart or not s/he would be scandalized by something like this and protest. Sadly, Christians don't seem to have that instinctive response.

Peace,
Indigo

Dear Indigo,

My blood pressure is as high as it goes when I read this stuff, but I won't take to the streets to burn effigies, make death threats on people, or riot like the Muslims do, so what CAN we Christians do that will be effective?!?!?

Alice

Speaker Pelosi has mastered the "art" of the Washington Waltz. In a manner of speaking, we can all agree "that Christianity has not been harmed." (remember the gates of hell will not prevail.)

In a follow up interview she was asked about the public funding that subsidizes the Folsolm Street Fair:


Well, Madame Speaker, you're not really addressing the question...

Well, I think it's time San Francisco's Christians organize some kind of boycott. But admittedly, that must be one tired group of Christians.They see everything and are probably used to not being to stop anything because they're outnumbered.

Alice, I don't know exactly how Christians should respond, and, of course, the Muslim extremists tactics are out of the question,butI don't believe that even moderate Muslims would allow a slur upon their religion to go unchallenged.

PErhaps the problem is that Christianity is no longer seen as sacred anymore so no one is shocked into these actions by these types of displays.Even during the Middle Ages in Europe people were steeped in the Bible and the air resounded with church bells, psalm recitations etc.much like Muslim countries are permeated with koranic inscriptions and the calls to prayer. PEople still say God Willing, etc. Even if a muslim is a tepid believer he's so steeped in the religious atmosphere that blasphemous displays would shock him into a reaction.

But then, I wonder how monastics would respond to something like this?

Well I know what I'm going to do. I'm a student in San Francisco now and the event isn't far from my place. At Mass I'm going to offer every note I sing up for these people. And after Mass I'm going to walk down there, rosary in hand. And I'm going to pray. Out loud. Kyrie Eleison!

Very brave of you, CatholicNerd. You might consider bringing others with you. The type of activists that turn out at these events can be violent and abusive, especially to faithful Catholics, unlike Ms. Pelosi.

You also might consider praying quietly...Our Lord and Our Lady will hear your prayers, and your silent praying witness will speak volumes (and with volume) to others around you.

God bless,

Gordo

It is a rather pointed slur. It's like the artwork in New York of a montage of private parts to form an image of Mary, or the crucifix immersed in urine. It's "free speech", but if they had been offending a protected group it would not have been given public support.

I would imagine that if the sensibilities of Christians were to explicitly shape policy or to influence Pelosi to condemn the "art", then there will be people crying foul over the separation of Church and State. It's a very weird situation we've come to.

In liberal Protestant circles, I would suspect Catholic too but I don't know, there are interpertations of the relationship of Christ and the Apostles as filtered through Queer Theory. It's rather sick, but the claim has been floating around for some time. This depiction would fit in with how some of those liberal 'theologians' (by trade, not scope) see Christ.

Terry

'Inshallah', Christians everywhere will wake up.

As for Christians, there are still some places where it is permissable to be one, and where it still has some respect...For instance, I will admit that it was nice being woken up in Athens on Sundays and holy days in our neighborhood by the first church bells for Orthros, and then if I had not woken up yet, the second church bells for DL. It was also nice to see new huge churches being built everywhere in that city.

Another tidbit that is neither here nor there: (since you brought up the Muslim culture)While there, I was watching a Turkish television serial w/English subtitles there about a middle class Turkish family (they owned a baklava making bakery), and it was interesting that the children, even adult ones, in their culture traditionally kiss the hands of their parents--even after a heated argument, etc.

Back to the topic at hand: It seems to me that this horrible stuff does seem to be primarily coming out of this country...people are generally more respectful, though not necessarily religious, in the countries of Europe.

I don't know where all this blasphemous anger comes from here, because that is what it is--ANGER!!! Infact, I would venture to say that this anger, from these artists and gay groups, is much like the anger of a rebellious child who is furious that his/her parents won't give in to their wants and desires. So, perhaps it is the fact that there is a very Christian and influential sector and mentality in this country, which has been with us from day one--with the Puritan ethic, that permeates our country, and which is therefore, creating this gross type of deliberately OFFENSIVE REACTION from immature people who have not grown up and who are simply rebelling like pathetic children.

Alice

If you ask me she should be publically rebuke by the Church and if she remains unrepentant, then she should have a ban of excommunication imposed upon her. Unfortuantely she has gone so far away from the faith that I dont think that would matter to her much. See arent you proud of me, I didnt even use the "D"
word.
Stephanos I

We had a conference this weekend with Dr. Beckwith as one of the speakers. NOW THESE ARE SOME OF MY NOTES AND NOT HIS EXACT WORDS

One of his topics was of the title that was given to him, 'In America, Jesus is not Lord'. He thought it an odd title at first, but as he prayed it led him into teaching us about it. He used John 1:1, that Christ is Logos, the Word, existence of everything in knowledge itself depends on Christ Logos, but in our culture the debate is over reason and matter.

Gen 1:1, the theological truth is absolute, it transmit dignity,ethics, absolutes, it all arrives from the Nature of God.

He went on to explain that our culture is a Dictatorship of Relevatism, meaning that no one has truth, so everyone should be open minded, it is under the authority of each person.

So his nephew or niece (can't remember which), presented this to his professor. Well if no one has truth, why should we listen to anyone. The response was basically, only religion - especially the Catholic Church - cannot be true. That you can believe what you want, but not believe it is true. Well you get the picture.

The CD of the talks are available through ccrob@catholic.org .

That is the grave state of affairs when Pelosi, says that this will not hurt Christianity. She is right, the gates of hell will not prevail against Christ and his Church. However, Scripture states in Matthew 10:

14: Everyone who acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my heavenly Father.

33: But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.

The point being, she has not only marked her soul for denying Christ. Look at the people who will listen to her. Has she affected their faith? If she has lessened it in anyway, she has also marked her soul. For each person involved in this hideous action, her words have only encouraged them, they too have been hurt by her words.

Yet, she does this, then receives Christ in the Eucharist!

That is my concern, for her and so many. Example...

# If a believer who is conscious of having committed a mortal sin eats and drinks the consecrated bread and wine, does he or she still receive the Body and Blood of Christ?

Yes. The attitude or disposition of the recipient cannot change what the consecrated bread and wine are. The question here is thus not primarily about the nature of the Real Presence, but about how sin affects the relationship between an individual and the Lord. Before one steps forward to receive the Body and Blood of Christ in Holy Communion, one needs to be in a right relationship with the Lord and his Mystical Body, the Church - that is, in a state of grace, free of all mortal sin. While sin damages, and can even destroy, that relationship, the sacrament of Penance can restore it. St. Paul tells us that "whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup" (1 Cor 11:27-28). Anyone who is conscious of having committed a mortal sin should be reconciled through the sacrament of Penance before receiving the Body and Blood of Christ, unless a grave reason exists for doing so and there is no opportunity for confession. In this case, the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, that is, an act of sorrow for sins that "arises from a love by which God is loved above all else" (Catechism, no. 1452). The act of perfect contrition must be accompanied by the firm intention of making a sacramental confession as soon as possible.
http://www.usccb.org/dpp/realpresence.htm

I find it so ironic that these homosexuals would seek to shock and to hurt so many people, when they themselves have been the victims of a lot of hurt. You'd think they would know better.

This is almost a type of hate speech. It's really just disgusting.

Alexis

Well let me tell you what happened to me the other day, which shows how these people are, walking to my car a man drove by and gave me the finger. I smiled and said softly Pea brain, then I thought oh no, I should not have said that, so I said split pea.
Stephanos I

These people? Father, I don't know who you are referring to.