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I guess I've got to learn to proof read a bit more. Eatern, " feats during the week," " byt the way" Do I get the spelling award this week? Or just the raspberries?  BOB
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Bob, I'm preparing a bushel right now!  I wonder how much the concept of oikonomia might apply here...(not to your mispellings but to the pastoral situation we are discussing). Anyone here that is an expert on this concept (or just knows more than I do, which could be just about anybody!) that might be willing to comment? I agree with Diak's point. How will you be able to fully discern a change of rite unless you actually LIVE the rite fully for a period of time? God bless, Gordo
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GORDO:
Christ is in our midst!! He is and always will be!!!
I'm a Latin Catholic but don't for one minute bother myself about "Holy Days of Obligation." By that I mean that I have come to understand what the Church is trying to teach me with these days set aside as feasts outside of Sunday. I'm not a minimalist. My faith is a love affair. I WANT to be there, so no sense of obligation prods me to make sure that I'm there on a given feast. It's part of who I am; it's part of the life I live in Christ. So, for me, a sense that I have to be somewhere under obligation means that I have no longer made a free response to Christ but am there as one compelled. I'm not compelled. I take the time to get to other feasts that are not obligatory for us in the US: Annunciation Day, Triumph of the Holy Cross, and others. This is part of my history as a Catholic and reminds me of where I fit into the church Militant and where I want to be in the Church Triumphant--by God's mercy. As one of the Desert Fathers put it, "I do not fear God, but I love Him. And love drives fear out of doors."
So I really was uplifted by my earlier experiences among Orthodox Christians who made every effort--even driving 60 miles one way--to participate in the Divine Liturgy. It's got to be a love affair to make that kind of sacrifice and commitment.
In Christ,
BOB
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Bob, I understand what you mean regarding the idea of obligation. I do not consider going to liturgy or being with Christ in church for any service- vespers/ matins, to be an obligation either. But, the reality of my situation right now is that I have a 4 year old, 3 year old, & 3 month old boys and getting out of the house by a certain time with them, by myself, can be a challenge! If it were just me, I'd be at everything- all the time, everyday! -- and I do make a big effort to be at most all liturgical services (definitely Sundays & holy days- as well at other feasts) at our parish with the boys. A friend once said to me that once she had her 4th baby, going to daily mass became a near occasion of sin bc they weren't always the best behaved.  So, sometimes I need to know if I "must" be at church so that I can do my best to plan & be prepared to get there without too much trouble- especially if it happens to be early in the AM or lunch time, or even later around dinner time. Sadly, I think a lot of moms tend to skip (even Sundays) bc they can't figure out how to get through liturgy/ mass with their kids. For us, it isn't so much getting through liturgy- my boys are really very good- but getting there can be hard. The baby really hates the car!  Alexis
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